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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
HOW???
You keep going on about it, but fail to provide any form of substance to back up your claim. What is the theory behind your claim??
Please - I'd really like to know.
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You really are a moron, aren't you...
First, go get your little dictionary and define the following words, because I know you do not know what the mean:
Inertia
Velocity
Gravity
Centripetal Force
Kinetic Energy
After you've done that, TRY and follow me here. Yet, I bet you STILL do not understand.
Take your dumb ass cone idea and imagine how is it set up. What does the cone allow the spring to do? Unseat, right? There is not restrain on the spring either, right? It just falls out. By the spring just falling out, your limiting factor is going to be either the shock or the control arm. Basically, your truck is in an "uncontrolled" "body lean" when your in a position to the effect of a spring dropping out; Not always, but a big percentage of the time.
On the flip side, there is noting supporting the side of the vehicle when the spring is dropped. The shock surly is not doing it. Thus, the opposite front tire become lighter. Why? Because there is no force, at all, pushing on the corner that is dropped out. As the axle articulates, the spring may remain unseated but 4-5" for a period of time. Where as, if a retained truck articulates, even a 1/4", force is then applied to the opposite corner, AS WELL as the corner making contact with the ground. So, what do we have? MORE traction with a retained truck.
Let's say you're rolling down a trail or rock garden. The front end dips into a hole and the rear corner begins to come up. As the body rolls (Inertia) the gravity and kinetic energy will continue to "roll" the body in the direction closest to the ground. In in un-retained truck, what will stop the kinetic energy? The cone?? The shock? The control arm? The weight of the tire? The springs? Are you starting to actually think, yet? I dought you are... The front spring that drops into the whole will then work to "support" the vehicle. It that, alone, going to stop the Inertia? No. There has to be more resistance there. What is going to stop the kinetic energy stored in the body roll? Well, is has to come from the opposite corner, or the corner raising up. If you have a cone, you are not utilizing the weight of the wheel, axle, or the leverage of the planted wheel on the same axle to stop the movement. Instead, the body continues to roll uncontrollably, as much as 14-18", until the shock grabs the axle.
At this point, your wheel is just hanging there. It's doing noting but sitting there. It provides VERY minimal traction (if you have not rolled) and once the truck is moving forward again, until that spring re-seats, optimum traction will not be gained by the opposite corner wheel.
So, I think it can be agreed that a truck with cones has more body roll, right? Damn, I sure hope you understand that. If not, you're a lost cause.
Transversing a sideways terrian.... If it takes ~220lbs+ of force to stretch a spring, what will have more effect in controlling body roll? A spring? Or, a cone that will unseat the spring with nothing more than gravity? Like wise, id a spring is pulling up on an axle, the energy is then directed to the opposite of the axle, doing what?? Putting increased weight on that wheel, right? Would that mean both more traction and increased stability? Wow!
You idiots who run a cone set up do so because you think flexy is sexy. There is no other reason to do so. If you would direct your money from the mile long shocks and the cones, and put it toward a locker, you may actually have something to talk about.
I don't care where you go, anyone competing in pro level competitions will never be running a cone or revolver style set-up. It's stupid, and it does nothing to make your truck any better than it already was.
Now, I agree that it is best to keep your wheel planted on the ground, but if it's just hanging there in mid air, all it's doing is fucking you up.
