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Originally Posted by Adam in NYC USA
Hey dude, wake up. It's not a FORD.
Does it run on various fuels including DIESEL?
A new Jeep starts at A$18,000 and ends at A$36,000 (look at the MSRP for a Rubicon 4d Unlimited).
DUH!
Get some coffee.
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Well sorry it's not a FORD. $18 to $36k is pretty reasonable nowadays. You get choices on how well or not you want it equipped, it can actually off-road, meets much of your criteria, but guess because it's not a Ford you're not interested. If you look at the marketplace, if Ford made such an animal you could bet it would be priced right there with the Wrangler anyway. No one's going to sell a car cheaper than what the marketplace will bear, it's called profit, which is something most employees could give a hoot about as long as the check is there on payday. I know I run my own business. The days of getting a new vehicle for $2,705.00 out the door are long, long gone. Even one of those glorified battery powered golf carts sells for like 4-5 grand, you can spend more than that on a motorcycle or ATV without even trying, so $18k starting price isn't bad in my opinion.
The lack of diesel engine I'd lay more on the EPA than Ford or anyone else, and in CA we get screwed anyway. For example they made a diesel Jeep Liberty but you can't get one in CA. They make a diesel Toureg, but you can't get one in CA. So it would be a useless concept to me.
Making an engine that would run on diesel, gas, E-85, LNG, hydrogen, etc., all with one engine is nice wishful thinking but I don't think you're going to see one because it would be about impossible to make, it would cost a fortune to make, getting the EPA to certify one would cost 5 fortunes, and besides, everyone's putting their money into other technologies such as hybrids and hydrogen. While I think it's totally silly that everyone on the planet can get a diesel anything, and the technology is evidently good enough for Europe, Canada, Australia, etc., and not for us, that's the way it is unfortunately.
At this time there's a lot of cars that run on gas or E-85, but again in CA it's useless to have an E-85 car because there's only 1 gas station in the whole state where you can get E-85, in San Diego which is about 500 miles south of here. Besides, E-85 isn't taking off that much anyway and most of what's going on is in the mid-west because they don't have a tree-hugger behind every bush trying to block any progress like we do here.
Regarding Ford, they have a gigantic hole to dig out of, it's going to affect a lot of people unfortunately, and there's 100's of reasons why they're having problems. Sounds like you may be one of them being affected by it. Ford isn't going to pull monkeys out of their ass and fix this overnight either, it will probably take years for them to dig out. That's what happens when you're asleep at the wheel.
