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Old 10-31-2005, 06:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
darkknight1999
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Originally Posted by David
I would strongly advise against using a clay bar over and over again. The clay picks up contaminants that WILL eventually rub against the paint. Cutting the bar into dedicated pieces (and using each piece once) will minimize the chance of marring the clearcoat.

John, no offense, but you sound like someone who details for money (based on the fact that you like to reuse clay). Let's just say I don't agree with the 'Pro' detailer mentality (profit before everything else). As you can tell, I'm an enthusiast first, hence why my advice is what it is. Though I do agree with you about marketing playing a large role in the world of detailing, for which the folks at optimum (you must frequent autopia - everyone there is falling all over themselves for this stuff) are no more or less guilty than any other company.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
Thanks! You just proved my point! Here let me quote you "WILL eventually" So what you just said is that if you used the clay long enough you "WILL eventually" damage the paint... Yeah no kidding... I didn't say keep the same bar forever. Once its dirty fine through it out. But don't use clay once and though it out... its a total waste of money.

If you were anykind of a good detailer enthusiast or professional you would know this.

But hey you can just keep throwing away prefectly good clay then. Or better yet you can mail it to me. You should really learn a little more about paint... and how clay effects it before you give advice. You'll have these poor people throwing $20 dollar bills in the trash for no reason.

And whats more you don't know anything about me. So next time you want to talk like you know it all... let me be the first to tell you, you don't. Your right I do detail for money... but I get paid to do a great job and remove scratch and blemishes from paint. As a professional with a clue.

As it turns out you are clearly a marketers dream... do you have any snake oil forsale? May you'd like to buy the whole line of Meguiars.

There are a lot of decent detailing products on the market but you have to know what to look for, and what is the snake oil on the market to avoid... which as it turns out is most of what the average person will find at the local auto parts store.

I use Optimum because it works. I proved it with my pictures above. But incase you still doubt my ability:
1991 Ford Escort
Before anything:


Wash and clayed (with older clay (older as in used on 4 different cars))


Compounded with a wool pad and Optimum compound:


Compounded again with a yellow foam pad:


Polished with a green pad and Optimum polish only once:


So yeah I think I know what I'm doing... I did that in about 20 minutes. I spent longer than that as you look at the time the pictures where taken but in the time I actually work on the paint... about 20 minutes.

Next time keep your enthusiast questions about my ability to yourself... I'm not the average detailer
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