To lock or, not to lock? - Land Rovers Only

siam · 09-15-2004, 08:00 AM

That's differential lock by the way.. So I have been getting a slew of mixed info about going to a lock type diff. I was thinking of going Detroit lockers Rear and TrueTrac in the front.. Anyone out there have input on how these units behave in snow/rain/mud . I know how these units act on dry hills from a buddies rig but was wondering will it be a ton of improvement or will it just make my Rover a task to drive.. This is an upgrade that I'm just thinking about the Rover can get through some pretty hard trails but more traction wouldn't be bad right...

Disco Mike · 09-15-2004, 08:16 AM

So are you going to be doing alot of snow driving? Lockers can make it a little more interesting at times on snow and ice, and that is not real bad once you get used to itm much less when you consider the great improvement when you're off the road.
I have a 99D2 with a Detroit and front T.T. also have HD rear axles, a must and 4:11's along with my CDL, my truck is only limited by how I drive. If I had it to do all over again I wouldn't change a thing.
Mike J.

siam · 09-15-2004, 01:21 PM

Thanks Disco Mike, ya I do a bit of snow driving but i would say 90% non-snow. I just dont want to fish tail like how my old Datsun 510 autocross car on heavy rain. ( or was it the powerful rotary powerplant i put in it ) hehe I might not go with it just learn to drive the truck the way it is being it also doubles as a Sunday Family car..

Disco Mike · 09-15-2004, 01:30 PM

I promise you if you go with the lockers you will find yourself spending more and more time off the road.
Mike J.

OriginalRoverdude · 09-15-2004, 06:40 PM

BTW, what are you driving? My suggestion would be to go in steps. First step, Locking Center Diff if you don't have that yet. I have an inexpesive and quick solution if you have an early DII. After that, kinda depends on what your driving.

www.roverdude.com

siam · 09-15-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OriginalRoverdude

BTW, what are you driving? My suggestion would be to go in steps. First step, Locking Center Diff if you don't have that yet. I have an inexpesive and quick solution if you have an early DII. After that, kinda depends on what your driving.

www.roverdude.com

opps, that would be a RR classic with minimal mods like K&N blaster coil, 8mm spark plug wires, No cats ... shhhhhh ! but that really gave the rover a wee bit more ummmpth !

TOZROVR · 09-16-2004, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Disco Mike

So are you going to be doing alot of snow driving? Lockers can make it a little more interesting at times on snow and ice, and that is not real bad once you get used to itm much less when you consider the great improvement when you're off the road.
I have a 99D2 with a Detroit and front T.T. also have HD rear axles, a must and 4:11's along with my CDL, my truck is only limited by how I drive. If I had it to do all over again I wouldn't change a thing.
Mike J.

I agree...see with a rear Locker in an awd rig in the snow it's not really bad....if this were a conventional 4wd rig that would see actual 2wd during the snow, that can get interesteing.

RJ

OriginalRoverdude · 09-16-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by siam

opps, that would be a RR classic

87, 88 or 89+ ? That will tell us if you have a CDL yet? I've seen front and rear lockers with Viscous Coupling and did not seem to give lockers full effect.

Barryj · 09-16-2004, 01:22 PM

Same problem, different motor. I have an 89 110 with 24 spline salisbury back axle. There used to be available in the UK an auto rear difflock, apparently favoured by the Ozzie army. Is there anything stateside and if so how much ?

siam · 09-16-2004, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OriginalRoverdude

87, 88 or 89+ ? That will tell us if you have a CDL yet? I've seen front and rear lockers with Viscous Coupling and did not seem to give lockers full effect.

another opps it's an 88 RR classic. so when you mean center diff lock you do mean the transfer case right? I know it parts the power distribution 50/50 front and back. Not unless this is other than what I think it is.. Hmmm

DrewInSD · 09-16-2004, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by siam

another opps it's an 88 RR classic. so when you mean center diff lock you do mean the transfer case right? I know it parts the power distribution 50/50 front and back. Not unless this is other than what I think it is.. Hmmm

After slipping to a halt this weekend 4wheeling my '87 RRC on dry, rocky, rutted up-hill terrain - I simply engaged the CDL and kept right on going. I honestly thought that it wouldn't help much and I would have to back up and try again, so I was pretty impressed.

Drew

OriginalRoverdude · 09-16-2004, 07:45 PM

Siam,
Your 88 has a locking center diff. Can someone confirm it is located on the 2 speed transfer case knob. You just slide it to the left, like a DI.

siam · 09-19-2004, 11:52 AM

LOL.. all this tech talk can get a person lost in what topic is going on.. yes, yes I know I have a center locking transfer case but was more talking about the rear and front axels.. right on for the info peeps..

Green Giant · 09-20-2004, 05:01 AM

What about maxi drive,vacuum actuated,and pretty much bullet proof.They also do them for the 24 spline salsbury.

Disco Mike · 09-20-2004, 08:11 AM

Siam,
I don't know what year or model your truck is, but if it has traction control youe least expensive mod is to do the CDL first. Without CDL yor 2 locking difs, no mater what you use, won't be as effective as they could be if you lock your t/case.
How much off road driving do you do, how hard a trail, and how often?
Mike J.

09-15-2004, 08:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
siam 100 quids for a days work son.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alameda Island Posts: 238 Gallery: 0	To lock or, not to lock? That's differential lock by the way.. So I have been getting a slew of mixed info about going to a lock type diff. I was thinking of going Detroit lockers Rear and TrueTrac in the front.. Anyone out there have input on how these units behave in snow/rain/mud . I know how these units act on dry hills from a buddies rig but was wondering will it be a ton of improvement or will it just make my Rover a task to drive.. This is an upgrade that I'm just thinking about the Rover can get through some pretty hard trails but more traction wouldn't be bad right...

09-16-2004, 01:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Barryj Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Brighouse West Yorks, UK Posts: 61 Gallery: 0	Same problem, different motor. I have an 89 110 with 24 spline salisbury back axle. There used to be available in the UK an auto rear difflock, apparently favoured by the Ozzie army. Is there anything stateside and if so how much ? __________________ groups.msn.com/shineysideup I think I am, ergo I must be

09-20-2004, 05:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
Green Giant Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1 Gallery: 0	lockers What about maxi drive,vacuum actuated,and pretty much bullet proof.They also do them for the 24 spline salsbury.

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09-15-2004, 08:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,116 Gallery: 0	So are you going to be doing alot of snow driving? Lockers can make it a little more interesting at times on snow and ice, and that is not real bad once you get used to itm much less when you consider the great improvement when you're off the road. I have a 99D2 with a Detroit and front T.T. also have HD rear axles, a must and 4:11's along with my CDL, my truck is only limited by how I drive. If I had it to do all over again I wouldn't change a thing. Mike J.

09-15-2004, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
siam 100 quids for a days work son.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alameda Island Posts: 238 Gallery: 0	Thanks Disco Mike, ya I do a bit of snow driving but i would say 90% non-snow. I just dont want to fish tail like how my old Datsun 510 autocross car on heavy rain. ( or was it the powerful rotary powerplant i put in it ) hehe I might not go with it just learn to drive the truck the way it is being it also doubles as a Sunday Family car..

09-15-2004, 01:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,116 Gallery: 0	I promise you if you go with the lockers you will find yourself spending more and more time off the road. Mike J.

09-15-2004, 06:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
OriginalRoverdude Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orange County CA USA Posts: 30 Gallery: 0	BTW, what are you driving? My suggestion would be to go in steps. First step, Locking Center Diff if you don't have that yet. I have an inexpesive and quick solution if you have an early DII. After that, kinda depends on what your driving. www.roverdude.com

09-16-2004, 07:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
OriginalRoverdude Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orange County CA USA Posts: 30 Gallery: 0	Siam, Your 88 has a locking center diff. Can someone confirm it is located on the 2 speed transfer case knob. You just slide it to the left, like a DI.

09-19-2004, 11:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
siam 100 quids for a days work son.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alameda Island Posts: 238 Gallery: 0	LOL.. all this tech talk can get a person lost in what topic is going on.. yes, yes I know I have a center locking transfer case but was more talking about the rear and front axels.. right on for the info peeps..

09-20-2004, 08:11 AM	#15 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,116 Gallery: 0	Siam, I don't know what year or model your truck is, but if it has traction control youe least expensive mod is to do the CDL first. Without CDL yor 2 locking difs, no mater what you use, won't be as effective as they could be if you lock your t/case. How much off road driving do you do, how hard a trail, and how often? Mike J.

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