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Old 04-12-2008, 05:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help get our Texas rivers back!

Since 2003 it has been illegal to drive in just about 95% of all Texas Rivers, creeks, and streams. Help us get them back! E-Sign this petition, it only takes seconds!

Make sure you E-sign this petition if you ever want to wheel in Texas river beds again!

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If you belong to another Texas based forum, post the link. The more sigs' the more chance we have!
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Dude there might be a reason for not driving down river beds. Are you talking about dry beds or ones that are teaming with fish fry and enviromentaly fragile micro creatures?.If your talking about dry thats ok, but if your talking about wild rivers I'm not sure that thats a clever idea.
It's not like you would need to cross a river at it's narrowest point because its the only place to cross for 200km is it.? If you want to drive down river beds to get your truck muddy and challenge driving skills there are better places than the rivers and streams that are realy fragile to do that. I dont much care for the goverment telling us what we can and can't do however this Bill makes sense. It's people that drive down river beds and streams that kill all the wildlife they cant see because they think it's cool that give all the rest of us a bad name in the 4x4 community.
It's people like that that have caused England,Wales and Scotland to close down over 70% of the off road trails made avail to the public because the wildlife and the surrounding areas have to grow back after irresponsible asshole 4x4 owners ruined the land scape.
I'm not a tree hugger but you need to drive responsibly in order to keep everyone else in good stead with local goverment. Fighting for the right to drive down a stream is retarded at best.

Once again dry beds are not an issue I would have thought but to drive down active streams just for the sake of it??? WTF?
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Dude there might be a reason for not driving down river beds. Are you talking about dry beds or ones that are teaming with fish fry and enviromentaly fragile micro creatures?.If your talking about dry thats ok, but if your talking about wild rivers I'm not sure that thats a clever idea.
It's not like you would need to cross a river at it's narrowest point because its the only place to cross for 200km is it.? If you want to drive down river beds to get your truck muddy and challenge driving skills there are better places than the rivers and streams that are realy fragile to do that. I dont much care for the goverment telling us what we can and can't do however this Bill makes sense. It's people that drive down river beds and streams that kill all the wildlife they cant see because they think it's cool that give all the rest of us a bad name in the 4x4 community.
It's people like that that have caused England,Wales and Scotland to close down over 70% of the off road trails made avail to the public because the wildlife and the surrounding areas have to grow back after irresponsible asshole 4x4 owners ruined the land scape.
I'm not a tree hugger but you need to drive responsibly in order to keep everyone else in good stead with local goverment. Fighting for the right to drive down a stream is retarded at best.

Once again dry beds are not an issue I would have thought but to drive down active streams just for the sake of it??? WTF?


Well as it stands you can't drive in any river bed, dry or flowing. I understand about not driving in a thriving mini eco system. I just think that making it black and white is wrong, there needs to be a grey area. Maybe exemptions, on certain water sheds. Fore example: a creek behind where I live is drive 8 months out of the year. It is gravel, it has very little vegatation and is virtually in accessable my most wild life(due to the steep and tall banks). Why couldnt a stream like that be driven in while dry? I understand about not tearing up certain things, but if your in a river bed that isn't being destroyed then it shouldn't be a problem! It is no differnt than the argument about guys that trail blaze, why not shut down all of the offroad trails to prevent that from happening? I say bring back our privilage with some stipulations! Make it where you have to be registered to wheel in river beds, mark the rivers that can be driven in and which ones can't, mark the conditions of which a river bed could be driven in!
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For somebody whom does not want the black and white of legislation; you certainly want a lot of stipulations marked off and put in print. When that happens, there are too many people trying to find areas in the stips that they can work around, or be read with varying definitions in court. That's what creates loopholes. Even a dry riverbed, still is part of an ever greater ecosysytem, and part of how it reacts in nature is why it is dry at certain times. After seeing videos of flash floods in texas, I would never want to be in a dry riverbed, that is only dry at certain times. Just a personal .02.
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For somebody whom does not want the black and white of legislation; you certainly want a lot of stipulations marked off and put in print. When that happens, there are too many people trying to find areas in the stips that they can work around, or be read with varying definitions in court. That's what creates loopholes. Even a dry riverbed, still is part of an ever greater ecosysytem, and part of how it reacts in nature is why it is dry at certain times. After seeing videos of flash floods in texas, I would never want to be in a dry riverbed, that is only dry at certain times. Just a personal .02.

ehhhh...... It doesn't matter anymore. I found out that Texas(I dont know about every state) government, does not see online petitions as legitament petitions. So, the 4000 e-sigs that thing got are pointless!
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