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Old 05-09-2008, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am totaly angry beyond words.

I dont like getting to politicaly "involved" but I am so disgusted that I am compelled to let my anger out in a constructive manner.

This week the British board of Education has taken the Holocaust of it's corriculum as it is too offensive to the Muslim Population here in the UK who claims it never happened!?

WTF!!!! How can this be happening? How is this acceptable? Is the UK saying that it never happened too to be politicaly correct? Why the fuck are we pandering to a popuation thats doesnt give a shit about our laws , beliefs and history??

I dont know what to say. I am sickened to hear about this. What in gods name is wrong with the world?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Remember that from Edmund Burke? I do.

This is not a myth. Please share your views as I need to know I am not the only fucker out here that knows the truth?

Could you imagine what would happen if we took something away from the muslim community???Shit their would be riots and the like as well several suicide bomb attempts against whomever took it away!

Am I the only one who is offended??
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That sounds like some serious bull sh*t is going on there! It sounds like the ultra super hippy liberals have gotten to some one in a big chair! I would like to see how that was even proposed and why it wasn't laughed at and turned down, that is just amazing that they are going to do that!
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Muslims want to take over the world, and we are letting them. Frankly, i have given up and I'm just enjoying the ride.

Nothing cures liberalism like a good dose of it.
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Can I get another AMEN!

This is a problem that has been "brewing" for quite some time and it's about to come to a boil. I only hope that it is not too late to bring western civilization back from the brink of self destruction...
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i hate that shit. this politically correct, "lets not step on any toes or offend" anyone attitude is a load of crap. shit happens. life isnt fair, the world isnt fair. just because one person or a few get mad over one thing being said doesn't mean it shouldn't be said at all. they need to get the holocaust back into the classroom, and say too bad for the people who don't like it.

evolution/intelligent design offends people respectively, just because you believe in one, doesn't mean you shouldn't learn about the other. but regardless, you don't take them Both out of the curriculum just because someone doesn't like what they say.
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It's going that way in the states too. That's what happens when you have open borders and pansy ass liberals running the show. Besides aren't the riots they had in I think France a couple years ago because they actually tried to get the muslim youth population to start working. Look around the world and see where the violence is and who is doing it, and yet we sit back and think if we just talk to them and don't offend there way of life everything will be great. Except there way of life hates everthing about ours and wants to wipe us out because we are infadels. It's not surprising that they took out the holocaust, they rewrite the history books all the time to suit their agenda or not offend another group. It pisses me off too.
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Normally I don't get involved in this stuff either but if true this is ridiculous. The Holocaust is history, fact, it really happened, what is there to argue? We're not talking about the interpretation of the Bible or the Koran here and whether one view offends another, this is historic fact.
The lessons learned from the Holocaust, regardless of the circumstances (who was involved) can be applied to any group and the consequences for not standing up to injustice and atrocity is clear.
Why would any Muslim want to have this piece of history and its lessons removed from the curriculum and what the youth can and should learn from it. Would they not want the world to stand up and stop such an event if it was happening to them? History has a funny way of repeating its self when you forget the past and I'm not sure anyone should want this forgotten because next time it just may be them.
The Jewish faith was the recipient of this particular event but this type of action is not just confined to one faith and I just can't for the life of me figure out why you would take this out of the schools?
I agree someone needs to stand up and say the only response that is appropriate "No, the Holocaust is a fact and we are going to teach it." End of discussion.
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Normally I don't get involved in this stuff either but if true this is ridiculous. The Holocaust is history, fact, it really happened, what is there to argue? We're not talking about the interpretation of the Bible or the Koran here and whether one view offends another, this is historic fact.
The lessons learned from the Holocaust, regardless of the circumstances (who was involved) can be applied to any group and the consequences for not standing up to injustice and atrocity is clear.
Why would any Muslim want to have this piece of history and its lessons removed from the curriculum and what the youth can and should learn from it. Would they not want the world to stand up and stop such an event if it was happening to them? History has a funny way of repeating its self when you forget the past and I'm not sure anyone should want this forgotten because next time it just may be them.
The Jewish faith was the recipient of this particular event but this type of action is not just confined to one faith and I just can't for the life of me figure out why you would take this out of the schools?
I agree someone needs to stand up and say the only response that is appropriate "No, the Holocaust is a fact and we are going to teach it." End of discussion.
EXACTLY!

I spent a couple years in Bosnia with K4 and believe me I had seen first hand what an attempt at a Complete irradication of a specific religious group is all about. Granted at the time it was the serbian guard that were mass culling the muslim sects,I dont want to forget that as well.
I find it curious that we never get credit in the Muslim communities for helping bring to an end the slaughter of Muslims by a Christian fanatic and get branded infidels and are subject to irradication ourselves because we dont believe what they do. If we took that out of a curriculum there would be mass rioting and suicide bombings.
It just makes me sick.All the double standards make me sick.
I think I am just getting tired of it all. Noone in my family owned slaves so why the fuck do certain people in the USA want an apology?You aint going to get one so fucking move on!
Why do I have embrace everyone elses diversity while I watch my own culture get diluted and thrown into the toilet for the sake of political correctness??
I'm 39 now and only untill recently have I actualy become aware that I should be ashamed of who I am because of my Nationality and skin color. So what if I'm white? I can be proud of that and not be racist! So what if I am an American? I am proud of that as it is my identity and wouldnt trade it for the world! Why should I change to adapt to everyone elses ways.
I like who I am so fuck anyone who wants me to change to suit their own pathetic ways.
Time to pack up the 109 and head home from this socialist trainwreck of a goverment here in the UK back to where it is at the very least OK to be me.
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YOU GUYS do know this is not true right?
snopes.com: Holocaust Teaching Ban

THey CAN teach the holocaust in UK schools.

NEVER believe crap like that without a quick investigation...

If it comes in an email .. its not true.. pretty much a good rule of thumb. If the french head dress law was prevailing on the radio for so many months..
THose of us that listen to BBC would have heard about this.

Its FALSE.

Not that I'm against hate propaganda.. just want people to know its false.. that way they can better expand on it.
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YOU GUYS do know this is not true right?
snopes.com: Holocaust Teaching Ban

THey CAN teach the holocaust in UK schools.

NEVER believe crap like that without a quick investigation...

If it comes in an email .. its not true.. pretty much a good rule of thumb. If the french head dress law was prevailing on the radio for so many months..
THose of us that listen to BBC would have heard about this.

Its FALSE.

Not that I'm against hate propaganda.. just want people to know its false.. that way they can better expand on it.
They can but are not. This is not false. They are not teaching it in English schools! That is a fact. I live here and it was on ITV and bbc 4 last week.
my sister teaches here full time in 6th form and it's been removed from the greater Kent school forum and education line up for 2009.
Because you listen to the bbc on the radio you think you have all the facts?
The bbc is generaly the most liberal and and unfactual joke going here in the uk. Not too many folks have much faith in them since they only report what the Labour party wants them too to keep the financing rolling in!
With the greatest of respect you have no fucking clue what you are fucking on about mate. You live too far away relying on BBC radio to keep you informed. I have a family member who sits on the board of education for the Kent school district and a very close friend that sits on the Canterbury School council who have both informed me of what is Actualy happening.
These people are on the front line of education and because you didnt hear it on the BBC you asume that it's false??
You sir ARE a fucktard and can suck my Balls!
You bring your bullshit facts to the table and then I will listen to what you say otherwise you are a fucktard and have no sense of fact. I have contacts that supercede any BBC bullshit and have the insight on what actually happens in education here in the UK. How bout you?
Thought not.
This educational fact is just that....a FACT! Deal with it shitbag this is not propaganda as you suggest.Just fact. If you dont like it...good. you need to open your eyes and see whats happening because it is.
I dont come on here to talk shit or put out propaganda. I only talk about what I know. I have seen the government directive with my own eyes at dinnner with my Sister when she showed it to me.
It dont get more factual than that!
Keep listening to the BBc and they will have you believe that 9/11 was perpitrated by George Bush. I suppose thats fact too eh'?
I'm done with this this thread man...I only wanted to point out something that I thought was an injustice only to have yourself put it into question like a twat based on bullshit. I am too emotionaly attatched to this topic to continue in a rational manner.
Believe what you want to man. Keep listening to the socialist bullshit on the BBC and vomit out the misinformation they feed you so you can sound knowledgable and important without the facts.
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Hey Series 3 don't pack your bags for the good ol' USA just yet...I'd wait to find out which way the wind is gonna blow in the election...liberal light (McCain) or way to the dark side lefty (Obama). I figure McCain will cost me less $$...but that's about it.

Just so you know the term "dark" has nothing to do with Mr. Obama's race...it has to do with the fact that his leadership of the USA would be a time of utter despair for the freedom loving people of this country. So don't even think about calling me a racist.
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My grandfather would be rolling in his grave if he wasnt cremated. He helped to liberate a camp in WWII and had nightmares from what he saw until the day he died.

Its unfathomable, imagine if we (the USA) stopped teaching about slavery because it offended a particular and small sect of our society.


Holly fucking shit batman.....

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3.. You are wrong.. You know it. If you are just venting.. whatever..

But you're wrong.. everyone can check the facts and know you're wrong.
Its easy.. its free.. and its all but unarguable.
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They need to stop teaching our kids the earth is round. Quite insesitive to us members of the flat earth society.
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3.. You are wrong.. You know it. If you are just venting.. whatever..

But you're wrong.. everyone can check the facts and know you're wrong.
Its easy.. its free.. and its all but unarguable.
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run for congress and try to make a difference.. no sense arguing about it over a LR forum...
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Sorry Brother. I thought the Lounge part of the forum was the right part of the forum to bitch?
Sorry man I'll just talk about Land Rover stuff from now on as it's less mentally taxing for some.
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Just to say that I honestly regret bringing this topic up.

My intent was not piss anyone off just to point out an issue that,despite what some say is false,is a serious issue to the world as a whole.
I know in my heart this is real as I have seen physical proof it is happening here.
I hope we have no further selective history lessons in the world anymore,but I am sure we will.

see ya guys later.........
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your not pissing me off. i think your right. im was just saying.. it seems the only people who can make a difference are people with power.
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