'01 D110

[Explorer4x4]

Originally Posted by Brian

The NAS spec Defender had a 3.9 V8, but all others had a 3.5. It doesn't say in the ad which one is fitted.

Second, it has an auto gearbox. Only one Defender had auto and that was the 50th anniversary edition of the Defender 90, only sold in 1998, in very limited numbers.

The pic of the engine says 3.9 and NAS Defender 90s were automatic in 1997 only

[Bene]

Originally Posted by Muddy Oval

"it may or may not be "illeagal". but even if it is, what are the Feds going to do?"

They don't do much other than crush it and either put you in jail or fine you up to $250,000... maybe both if you're lucky.

yeah, I thought about crushing it after I posted that. but going to jail and being fined? It's not like I'm pimping out school children.

[WCURoverD90]

Originally Posted by Bene

but going to jail and being fined? It's not like I'm pimping out school children.

Your right....But apparently they take this kind of thing very seriously...I have read a lot of importing LR's and its def. not worth it unless you go exactly by the book.

[TN-LR3]

it's not like our LR's are weapons of mass destruction and pose a threat to anything but mudpits and the back country trails. the USA really needs to get a LR person in the white house. then we can have TDI D110 double cab's

[RageRover]

I like the way you think TN-LR3.

[Muddy Oval]

I don't. I think that if it doesn't meet safety standards, they don't belong here. I think the safety standards are a little too overbearing, but the way you fix the whole deal is to change the standard, not illegally import a vehicle.
Even if you trick the state into giving you a VIN, the original VIN is the only legit one and it's the FEDS who will put you in a "pound you in the ***" prison.

[Bene]

Originally Posted by Muddy Oval

I don't. I think that if it doesn't meet safety standards, they don't belong here. I think the safety standards are a little too overbearing, but the way you fix the whole deal is to change the standard, not illegally import a vehicle.
Even if you trick the state into giving you a VIN, the original VIN is the only legit one and it's the FEDS who will put you in a "pound you in the ***" prison.

I think that falls into the realm of too much government babysitting. like marijuana and wilderness areas (trail closures). but then again you may have a point, I noticed the people who agreed on it being a BS law were all in their late teens to early 20s. I'm sure having a kid changes one's perspective on these kinds of things (by the way, congrats )

[Muddy Oval]

Thanks, Kevin-

I think people have forgotten that if you don't like the laws, you try to change them. You don't just ignore them. There's plenty of things that I think are silly laws, but what can ya do? Get involved, change 'em. There's a reason for safety standards and EPA engine certs etc although they (IMHO) are a bit overbearing. I think the 'lawless' attitude of a lot of younger people is from the parents letting the kids do whatever they want. Compare how people raise kids now to 30 years ago. Respect for elders- gone. Respect for parents- gone. Respect for laws- gone. I see kids telling their parents what to do all the time or kids acting all stupid and the parents don't discipline them. It makes for bad grown-ups.
My rant is now over...
If anything, blame Land Rover for walking away from the US market with the Defenders. They *could* have kept them available here, they just didn't have the $ or desire to do the compliance testing.

[RageRover]

I see your point Steve. Now if LR had made the Defender with Airbags and all the necessary safety requirements to meet US regulations, do you think people would buy? I think I would, then again, a D90 or 110 would cost a pretty penny, that plus the cost to integrate the new SRS system.

Then best thing, I guess is if you want one of these heirtage trucks, best trying to find the ones already here.

[Explorer4x4]

Originally Posted by RageRover

I see your point Steve. Now if LR had made the Defender with Airbags and all the necessary safety requirements to meet US regulations, do you think people would buy? I think I would, then again, a D90 or 110 would cost a pretty penny, that plus the cost to integrate the new SRS system.

Then best thing, I guess is if you want one of these heirtage trucks, best trying to find the ones already here.

If they would have added airbags, you'd be able to buy a brand new 110 cheaper than current '93s are going for.

[RageRover]

Why is that? I know inflation has come to new heights, but how much did a 93' D110 go for here in the US? I notice the price for a used, low miles or even high miles D90 or 110, can go for $20K-$25K.

But if they would be cheaper with the addition of airbags and all that, sold new here in the states, that would be nice.

[apbtpetey]

I wouldn't say that the new woulds would go for a lower price than what the current 93's are going for.

What would happen is that the pricing of the older ones would more than likely drop. The reason the NAS 90's and 110's are going at a high price is becuase there is only a limited supply of them and people seem to like them. Basic supply and demand comes into play here and that is why the price for a Nas 90 or 110 is so high. If they had continued to supply NAS 90's and 110's the used ones would be lower in price.

[WCURoverD90]

Originally Posted by apbtpetey

I wouldn't say that the new woulds would go for a lower price than what the current 93's are going for.

What would happen is that the pricing of the older ones would more than likely drop. The reason the NAS 90's and 110's are going at a high price is becuase there is only a limited supply of them and people seem to like them. Basic supply and demand comes into play here and that is why the price for a Nas 90 or 110 is so high. If they had continued to supply NAS 90's and 110's the used ones would be lower in price.

I think that after a break like the US has had the 94, 95's, and 97 D90's would appreciate b/c of course LRNA would change shit all around.....I think the same for the 110's

[Explorer4x4]

Originally Posted by RageRover

Why is that? I know inflation has come to new heights, but how much did a 93' D110 go for here in the US? I notice the price for a used, low miles or even high miles D90 or 110, can go for $20K-$25K.

But if they would be cheaper with the addition of airbags and all that, sold new here in the states, that would be nice.

The Defenders were in the low-mid $30k range here in '93-97. You can buy them in England brand new for that now. Check out these prices... http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehic...nfoBlockLink_1

If they added air bags, I figure that would add about $5k to the price.

[Muddy Oval]

The 93 NAS D110 stickered for $39K. I paid $41 for mine because it has a couple minor extras.
If I remember correctly, the 1994 Discovery stickered for $31 or so... I think the window sticker from my 95 was $29K for an S w/o sunroofs