are bull bars a necessity - Land Rovers Only

Rovin4life · 02-11-2006, 03:36 PM

well are they. Do you really need one or is it for show. Lets be honest, if you are gonna hit a wall then its useful but most of the time its pretty well established that people avoid them.

now mind you lamp guards arent bad. I cant tell you how many sets I have put on after a customer damages a bumper light after they buy the truck.

Winches are needed.

Off road lites can easily be put on the bumper if need be.

So are they really needed. Do they actually prevent anything from getting damaged. Lets be honest there is a large gap of inbetween for the lights and you are staring out front so you can see whats coming.

I understand rock guards and the like but seriously bull bars dont look useful.

01001010 · 02-11-2006, 03:41 PM

I think the only use they have is to drop your insurance like 13 dollars and to properly mount limbraisers...thats about it. I can see how they'd be useful, but no where off road...mainly in tight parking spaces, they provide protection from the oncomming parker.

p76rangie · 02-11-2006, 04:15 PM

It depends where you go. Mine overs side protection for the front as well as frontal protection. Mine gets used all the time off road, but I go into the more serious stuff. On the majority of 4WDs, they are only there for show.

Ian

01001010 · 02-11-2006, 04:19 PM

I gues they're also good for fellow buddies to climb up onto for leverage when going through an obstacle where your front end is up in the air!

keptin · 02-11-2006, 05:06 PM

beezle, ill say this.....I wouldnt buy one if I didnt have one, I would save my money for a good off-road bumper that could hold a winch. That being said, my rover came with a genuine brush bar added aftermarket and it serves a purpose. It hold lights (which the regular bumper can do....just mount them in the bumper) and takes small hits.....thats about it.....Id say they are 80% for looks, and not worth the cost to buy them unless looks are important to you. I believe mine complements my cut bumper and since I just bought some off-road lights, I dont plan to sell it till I have an HD "bull bar" replacment.

**Edited so I dont sound stupid

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Disco · 02-11-2006, 06:12 PM

Besides hanging lights, fishing rods, winches off it, and preventing damage from people backing into the truck, here in Australia, if you travel into the bush you will experience the menace of Kangaroos. Now a Kangaroo is cute, but stupid when it comes to cars. Unlike other creatures that run away from the approaching vehicle, Kangaroos run across suddenly in front of you, and very very often straight into the side of your vehicle. So I think I'll keep my bullbars a little while longer. At least till Kangaroo become extinct.

Ryan Roundy · 02-11-2006, 06:13 PM

I have one on my Ford truck. It's tough, and speced fron the front of the vehicle. When I nailed a deer in it at 45 mph, it bent th bar a little, but spared the front of my truck.On the rover however; the bull bar is weaker, and a lot closer to the front of the vehicle. I think it's mainly good for plowing down trail brush, and that's about it. I do have them on both my rovers, cause they just look bare without them.

Ryan

Muddy Oval · 02-11-2006, 06:26 PM

they originated as protection from animals... I've seen them save many times where the bars saved the truck from damage.

Rovin4life · 02-11-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddy Oval

they originated as protection from animals... I've seen them save many times where the bars saved the truck from damage.

Hence the term Bull bar.

Or as they call it down under,

A roo bar.

Disco · 02-11-2006, 09:18 PM

It's actually called a Bullbar down here, but Roos do make a smaller and much nicer hood mascot.

Funrover · 02-11-2006, 10:15 PM

I love mine!!!! It's great protection!!! I also use is as a recovery point and to push stuff........ I love it and use it often!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCSL · 02-11-2006, 10:21 PM

They are absolutely necessary on any vehicle you don't want to suffer body damage on. The bull bar that outlines the front end makes contact with rocks instead of your body panels and engine parts.

cellulararrest · 02-11-2006, 10:28 PM

I just want to make sure that it is known that there is a difference between a Bull bar and a Brush bar. It seems like they're blurring together.

Brush Bar:

Bull Bar:

Brush bar mounts in front of the bumper, and bull bar replaces the bumper.

SCSL · 02-11-2006, 10:42 PM

Good clarification Cellular. A "brush bar" will not prevent the damage I described above, nor will it serve as an adequate recovery point or winch mount in conjunction with a stock bumper. The brush bar will, however, help you if you hit a squirrel or brush up against a shrub.

p76rangie · 02-11-2006, 11:48 PM

In Oz they do have bull bars and Roo Bars. They are shaped differently. A roo bar will tend to have the other bars in front of the main bar section. They are designed to knock the roo to the ground rather than have it fly over the bonnet. Bull bars tend to have the bars leaning back towrads the car.

Ian

02-11-2006, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rovin4life Former NAS LR TECH, Current AUS LR TECH Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DOWN UNDER Posts: 1,859 Gallery: 0	are bull bars a necessity well are they. Do you really need one or is it for show. Lets be honest, if you are gonna hit a wall then its useful but most of the time its pretty well established that people avoid them. now mind you lamp guards arent bad. I cant tell you how many sets I have put on after a customer damages a bumper light after they buy the truck. Winches are needed. Off road lites can easily be put on the bumper if need be. So are they really needed. Do they actually prevent anything from getting damaged. Lets be honest there is a large gap of inbetween for the lights and you are staring out front so you can see whats coming. I understand rock guards and the like but seriously bull bars dont look useful.

02-11-2006, 03:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
01001010 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 4,542 Gallery: 15	I think the only use they have is to drop your insurance like 13 dollars and to properly mount limbraisers...thats about it. I can see how they'd be useful, but no where off road...mainly in tight parking spaces, they provide protection from the oncomming parker. __________________ JC... 1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =( 1965 Series IIa 109 RHD 2.25L Dsl - Wilks 1965 Series IIa 88' LHD 2.25L Petrol - Fionna

02-11-2006, 04:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
01001010 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 4,542 Gallery: 15	I gues they're also good for fellow buddies to climb up onto for leverage when going through an obstacle where your front end is up in the air! __________________ JC... 1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =( 1965 Series IIa 109 RHD 2.25L Dsl - Wilks 1965 Series IIa 88' LHD 2.25L Petrol - Fionna

02-11-2006, 05:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
keptin Roads?...Where we're going, we don't need roads... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,365 Gallery: 0	beezle, ill say this.....I wouldnt buy one if I didnt have one, I would save my money for a good off-road bumper that could hold a winch. That being said, my rover came with a genuine brush bar added aftermarket and it serves a purpose. It hold lights (which the regular bumper can do....just mount them in the bumper) and takes small hits.....thats about it.....Id say they are 80% for looks, and not worth the cost to buy them unless looks are important to you. I believe mine complements my cut bumper and since I just bought some off-road lights, I dont plan to sell it till I have an HD "bull bar" replacment. Edited so I dont sound stupid __________________ Josh Shapiro DII Photos at www.kep1.com Last edited by keptin : 02-12-2006 at 12:10 AM.

02-11-2006, 06:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,819 Gallery: 0	Besides hanging lights, fishing rods, winches off it, and preventing damage from people backing into the truck, here in Australia, if you travel into the bush you will experience the menace of Kangaroos. Now a Kangaroo is cute, but stupid when it comes to cars. Unlike other creatures that run away from the approaching vehicle, Kangaroos run across suddenly in front of you, and very very often straight into the side of your vehicle. So I think I'll keep my bullbars a little while longer. At least till Kangaroo become extinct. __________________ No hand signals, driver playing with his transfer Knob.

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02-11-2006, 04:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,101 Gallery: 0	It depends where you go. Mine overs side protection for the front as well as frontal protection. Mine gets used all the time off road, but I go into the more serious stuff. On the majority of 4WDs, they are only there for show. Ian

02-11-2006, 06:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ryan Roundy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah... about 3 hours from Moab Posts: 73 Gallery: 0	I have one on my Ford truck. It's tough, and speced fron the front of the vehicle. When I nailed a deer in it at 45 mph, it bent th bar a little, but spared the front of my truck.On the rover however; the bull bar is weaker, and a lot closer to the front of the vehicle. I think it's mainly good for plowing down trail brush, and that's about it. I do have them on both my rovers, cause they just look bare without them. Ryan __________________ http://www.utah4x4club.com/index.php...CODE=12&CID=18

02-11-2006, 06:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	they originated as protection from animals... I've seen them save many times where the bars saved the truck from damage. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

02-11-2006, 09:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Disco Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,819 Gallery: 0	It's actually called a Bullbar down here, but Roos do make a smaller and much nicer hood mascot. __________________ No hand signals, driver playing with his transfer Knob.

02-11-2006, 10:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
SCSL Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,841 Gallery: 0	They are absolutely necessary on any vehicle you don't want to suffer body damage on. The bull bar that outlines the front end makes contact with rocks instead of your body panels and engine parts.

02-11-2006, 10:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
cellulararrest 94 Defender 90 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chester, NH Posts: 1,070 Gallery: 0	I just want to make sure that it is known that there is a difference between a Bull bar and a Brush bar. It seems like they're blurring together. Brush Bar: Bull Bar: Brush bar mounts in front of the bumper, and bull bar replaces the bumper. __________________ S.N.H.L.R.

02-11-2006, 10:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
SCSL Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,841 Gallery: 0	Good clarification Cellular. A "brush bar" will not prevent the damage I described above, nor will it serve as an adequate recovery point or winch mount in conjunction with a stock bumper. The brush bar will, however, help you if you hit a squirrel or brush up against a shrub.

02-11-2006, 11:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,101 Gallery: 0	In Oz they do have bull bars and Roo Bars. They are shaped differently. A roo bar will tend to have the other bars in front of the main bar section. They are designed to knock the roo to the ground rather than have it fly over the bonnet. Bull bars tend to have the bars leaning back towrads the car. Ian

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