I hate to bring it up again, but... - Land Rovers Only

cellulararrest · 06-17-2005, 05:05 PM

http://discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9118

That agro1 dude is a dick. Actually, moron more like. haha. oh well. Maybe I'll regret posting this.

roverX · 06-17-2005, 05:38 PM

Well, no matter what you think of the guy, he always has some good points and is usually pretty accurate on some of the tougher issues. My philosophy is this...you can flame me all you want as long as you give me what I am looking for. I can get past the flaming...it is kind of like a little yapper dog - you know, the kind little old ladies usually have - sometimes they get on your nerves but you just shoo them away 'cuz all they can do is yap.
Nonetheless, he has given me good advice in the past and I would welcome his opinion.
But this is just my two cents.

cellulararrest · 06-17-2005, 06:06 PM

I'd have to agree, but only to a point. There are much better ways of wording such advice or points without the attitude. That guy is just being a flat out dick. Ah well. what can you do? Atleast it doesn't happen here! I love this place.

SCSL · 06-17-2005, 09:26 PM

He is a jackass.

However, he's right on his points regarding the Rangie air suspension's record on the trail. Very poor. Virtually unseen on rigs that see the off-road with any regularity. If you're gonna wheel it, I would strongly recommend a coil conversion. But that's just my friendly .02

It's become clear to me as I've gotten into some web forums during my sabatical, that some people are incapable of offering their thoughts on forums without being jackasses. Just ignore 'em.

Searcaigh · 06-17-2005, 10:32 PM

I had a quick read of that thread and have to agree with agro1 on the bag v coil issue.

Nobody in this area here uses airbags (EAS or whatever it's called in US) for off-roading.

All Rangies used off road have been converted to coils, and anyone with a Disco uses coils also, in fact LAnd Rover I believe stopped importing Air Bag Discos after 2001 because of frequent problems.

I had the 2005 Rangie for a test a few months ago and with no override system the height drops back to normal mode when exceeding 55kph, not very helpful whilst driving round a bowl in an attempt to get out when we need speeds of around 80kph to have enough momentum.

Give me coil springs anyday

Series 3 guy · 06-19-2005, 07:05 AM

Coil upgrades are the best way to enjoy real off roading in the p38!! what is not cool is that agro chap.Surly there is a better way to get yer point accross without being a clown.Or a sarcastic clown. I am an ass and willing to concede that.Right time and place if you get my drift..........

CoachDitka · 06-21-2005, 08:33 AM

You have to love people that think their way is the best way. Personally, the offroading I do is 95% sand, and I can tell you I have gone through stuff using my EAS that I never could have with coils due simply to ground clearance. A couple times I even bottomed out in sand and the car popped up into the super-duper-extra-height mode and off I went. Had I been using coils, I would have been screwed. Also, a few times I have driven over trees that I could not have passed had I fitted coils. Anywho, to each his own, but I personally like the EAS.

-Coach

06-17-2005, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
cellulararrest 94 Defender 90 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chester, NH Posts: 1,070 Gallery: 0	I hate to bring it up again, but... http://discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9118 That agro1 dude is a dick. Actually, moron more like. haha. oh well. Maybe I'll regret posting this. __________________ S.N.H.L.R.

06-17-2005, 05:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
roverX Elephantitis penisitis Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,439 Gallery: 0	Well, no matter what you think of the guy, he always has some good points and is usually pretty accurate on some of the tougher issues. My philosophy is this...you can flame me all you want as long as you give me what I am looking for. I can get past the flaming...it is kind of like a little yapper dog - you know, the kind little old ladies usually have - sometimes they get on your nerves but you just shoo them away 'cuz all they can do is yap. Nonetheless, he has given me good advice in the past and I would welcome his opinion. But this is just my two cents. __________________ What? Is this where I'm supposed to write some profound statement that boggles the intellect of the genius that you think you are? Why would I waste my time with that when I can be getting free lap dances from your sister AND your girlfriend at the same time?

06-17-2005, 06:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
cellulararrest 94 Defender 90 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chester, NH Posts: 1,070 Gallery: 0	I'd have to agree, but only to a point. There are much better ways of wording such advice or points without the attitude. That guy is just being a flat out dick. Ah well. what can you do? Atleast it doesn't happen here! I love this place. __________________ S.N.H.L.R. Last edited by cellulararrest : 06-18-2005 at 08:46 AM.

06-17-2005, 10:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Searcaigh Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 463 Gallery: 31	I had a quick read of that thread and have to agree with agro1 on the bag v coil issue. Nobody in this area here uses airbags (EAS or whatever it's called in US) for off-roading. All Rangies used off road have been converted to coils, and anyone with a Disco uses coils also, in fact LAnd Rover I believe stopped importing Air Bag Discos after 2001 because of frequent problems. I had the 2005 Rangie for a test a few months ago and with no override system the height drops back to normal mode when exceeding 55kph, not very helpful whilst driving round a bowl in an attempt to get out when we need speeds of around 80kph to have enough momentum. Give me coil springs anyday __________________ Gordon T. Smith Middle East Land Rover Nutter

06-19-2005, 07:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Series 3 guy MISSING THE HELL OUT OF SEATTLE Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beckenham,Kent ENGLAND Posts: 1,930 Gallery: 5	Coil upgrades are the best way to enjoy real off roading in the p38!! what is not cool is that agro chap.Surly there is a better way to get yer point accross without being a clown.Or a sarcastic clown. I am an ass and willing to concede that.Right time and place if you get my drift.......... __________________ 82' series III 109 safari prepared 2.25 pet.WILL NEVER GET RID OF!!!!!! 91'Range Rover classic 3.9L V8!(sold) 98' Land Rover Discovery with a MOD wolf 300 tdi(sold) 97' Defender 90 300 tdi (sold) 99' p38 Range 4.6 autobiography (sold) 2007 Porsche GT3..faster than the 109!

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06-17-2005, 09:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
SCSL Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,841 Gallery: 0	He is a jackass. However, he's right on his points regarding the Rangie air suspension's record on the trail. Very poor. Virtually unseen on rigs that see the off-road with any regularity. If you're gonna wheel it, I would strongly recommend a coil conversion. But that's just my friendly .02 It's become clear to me as I've gotten into some web forums during my sabatical, that some people are incapable of offering their thoughts on forums without being jackasses. Just ignore 'em.

06-21-2005, 08:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
CoachDitka Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 79 Gallery: 0	You have to love people that think their way is the best way. Personally, the offroading I do is 95% sand, and I can tell you I have gone through stuff using my EAS that I never could have with coils due simply to ground clearance. A couple times I even bottomed out in sand and the car popped up into the super-duper-extra-height mode and off I went. Had I been using coils, I would have been screwed. Also, a few times I have driven over trees that I could not have passed had I fitted coils. Anywho, to each his own, but I personally like the EAS. -Coach

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