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Old 06-01-2005, 04:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There have been an increase in Land Rover thefts in South London in the past few Months. I would like to think I'm fairly knowledgable about Landy's,however I know F**kall about protecting them from thieves! The rumor around town is they are being sent to the middle east. Does anyone have any tips on Good Security? I use the typical steering wheel bars wich I feel is a bit lame,but a mild deterant to joy riders but not the more ept.Desperate for good ideas being I live in South London/Kent area and don't want to loose my Children!!!!!!
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know it can be a bit of a pain, but a surefire method is to remove the rotor out of your distributor.
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I know it can be a bit of a pain, but a surefire method is to remove the rotor out of your distributor.
You know what....that is a brilliant idea!!! I do however use each landy for different things throughout the week.It would be a pain,but for going on holiday and the like.....GREAT IDEA.
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The Steering wheel locks, called a "club" in the states, are very effective, as long as you crank the wheel hard over when parked. There are some that lock the pedals up to the wheel so you can't even depress the brake or clutch. Immobilizers aren't mean't for vehicles whose electrical systems are as simple as a series truck, but anything that prevents it quickly starting is good. Thieves don't want to spend anytime getting a non-runner going, for fear of attracting attention (from do-gooders, and police alike) Removing the rotor is a good idea, as is a switch beneath the bonnet that breaks the circuit to the stater solinoid. I even knew a guy who put a switch in to make his horn blow if the lights were turned on. Thieves are ingenious, and know electrics, but rarely go looking for other things, such as a fuel shutoff valve. Getting stuck on the High street with a stalled car, a block or so away will leave them abandoning the vehicle. Everyone notices a dead car in the traffic lane.
Personally I like the idea of a radio controlled bomb. Knowing I blew the bastards up might be more satisfying than getting the car back.
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The Steering wheel locks, called a "club" in the states, are very effective, as long as you crank the wheel hard over when parked. There are some that lock the pedals up to the wheel so you can't even depress the brake or clutch. Immobilizers aren't mean't for vehicles whose electrical systems are as simple as a series truck, but anything that prevents it quickly starting is good. Thieves don't want to spend anytime getting a non-runner going, for fear of attracting attention (from do-gooders, and police alike) Removing the rotor is a good idea, as is a switch beneath the bonnet that breaks the circuit to the stater solinoid. I even knew a guy who put a switch in to make his horn blow if the lights were turned on. Thieves are ingenious, and know electrics, but rarely go looking for other things, such as a fuel shutoff valve. Getting stuck on the High street with a stalled car, a block or so away will leave them abandoning the vehicle. Everyone notices a dead car in the traffic lane.
Personally I like the idea of a radio controlled bomb. Knowing I blew the bastards up might be more satisfying than getting the car back.
Good idea! Sounds like fun too. I like cars more than people though.would be a dilema. Thanks for the advice.
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Steering locks are not to good and idea.
Saw a program on TV where a retired car thief cut through the steering wheel in less than 30 seconds with a hacksaw to remove the steering lock that was also attached to one of the peddes.
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Try "Tracker" Its not cheap but your car will never be lost.
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Try "Tracker" Its not cheap but your car will never be lost.
I,ve heard about tracker.Is it expensive??I would need to fit it to my series. Know anymore about it???
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A good ole fashioned kill switch might be an idea. Mount it somewhere it wouldn't be obvious yet not inconvienient for you to switch on for the driving. You could salvage an inertia switch out of a Range Rover and mount it. It doesn't even look like a switch.

Good luck. I guess I shouldn't suggest you brits start shootin' a few of these thieves that might get a gun control debate started.
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A good ole fashioned kill switch might be an idea. Mount it somewhere it wouldn't be obvious yet not inconvienient for you to switch on for the driving. You could salvage an inertia switch out of a Range Rover and mount it. It doesn't even look like a switch.

Good luck. I guess I shouldn't suggest you brits start shootin' a few of these thieves that might get a gun control debate started.
Belive me I woul shoot if I could!!! Kill switch sounds good!!
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I have a tracker in one of my discos. The unit is not cheap as has already been stated. I believe that there are a couple of options now available, monitored, that is, the company that sells the unit usually offers 24 hour monitoring, or you can do it yourself via your computer which is cheaper as you forego the yearly monitoring fee, however, if your vehicle is stolen whilst you are asleep, it could be a long way away before you find it missing. You have to decide whether you want satellite, or gsm tracking. Each method has it's pros and cons. Satellite tracking gives you the advantage of locating your vehicle where ever it is, even if it's on the other side of the country. The downside is that if it's driven into a garage or underground car park, the satellite won't work. With the gms system, the vehicle can be tracked while it's in mobile area, it won't work outside of it. The other advantages of both systems is that if your vehicle is stolen, the monitoring base knows virtually immediately, they will telephone you on what ever numbers you nominate, they will call the cops while constantly feeding them the location of you vehicle, and, when the cops are in position and give the word, the monitoring company will send a signal that will shut down the engine, causing it to come to a stop.
FWIW, I like it because it gives me peace of mind.
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When I have to leave the D-90 outside overnight for whatever reason I use the 'pull the rotor' trick and also I put the transfer case in neutral. My transfer case linkage is hooked up funny and if you don't know the trick you aren't getting it in gear. Most kids have no clue about what that second shifter is and wouldn't know how to use it. Also, having a manual helps in the States as most kids/joyriders don't know how to drive one.
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I have a tracker in one of my discos. The unit is not cheap as has already been stated. I believe that there are a couple of options now available, monitored, that is, the company that sells the unit usually offers 24 hour monitoring, or you can do it yourself via your computer which is cheaper as you forego the yearly monitoring fee, however, if your vehicle is stolen whilst you are asleep, it could be a long way away before you find it missing. You have to decide whether you want satellite, or gsm tracking. Each method has it's pros and cons. Satellite tracking gives you the advantage of locating your vehicle where ever it is, even if it's on the other side of the country. The downside is that if it's driven into a garage or underground car park, the satellite won't work. With the gms system, the vehicle can be tracked while it's in mobile area, it won't work outside of it. The other advantages of both systems is that if your vehicle is stolen, the monitoring base knows virtually immediately, they will telephone you on what ever numbers you nominate, they will call the cops while constantly feeding them the location of you vehicle, and, when the cops are in position and give the word, the monitoring company will send a signal that will shut down the engine, causing it to come to a stop.
FWIW, I like it because it gives me peace of mind.
Perhaps an option.Still cheaper than replacing my Landy and huge insurance increse!! I'll check out their web site and see whats up.Thanks for the advice.
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Another idea is an electrical 'kill switch' mounted somewhere descrete, like under the dash. I had one of these in an old '68 Porsche that my father had installed when I was just a kid. He used to drive from PA into Newark & NYC and this seemed to do the trick as the car was easy as hell to break into,,they all were back in the day.
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When I have to leave the D-90 outside overnight for whatever reason I use the 'pull the rotor' trick and also I put the transfer case in neutral. My transfer case linkage is hooked up funny and if you don't know the trick you aren't getting it in gear. Most kids have no clue about what that second shifter is and wouldn't know how to use it. Also, having a manual helps in the States as most kids/joyriders don't know how to drive one.
I agree!! I already use the tranfer case trick.I think it's a good one as most people are confused with all the sticks.Cheers!!!
Keep the Ideas Comming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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