Conversion-Friendly Diesels - Land Rovers Only

AAXD · 06-30-2005, 03:15 PM

Does anyone know of any diesel engines that are available in the US that will easily mate up to a Series running gear? I am looking for a possible engine for a SVO conversion in my '71 IIA and was wondering what others have had goodluck with running. I'd prefer a turbodiesel if possible. I'd like to do a 200/300/2.8l TDi conversion but am put off by the cost.

Mercedesrover · 07-08-2005, 01:25 PM

Not friendly but do-able. And there's nothing that runs better on WVO than a Benz!!

Kevin · 07-10-2005, 06:05 AM

I haven't seen them myself but here in S.A. a few chaps have put in Isuzu 2.8 td engines. They have also been doing it in the forward controls. On my last club trip there was a chap with a Nissan 3.0 diesel onto which he put a turbo. Don't know if that helps.

azpaquin · 08-01-2005, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercedesrover

Not friendly but do-able. And there's nothing that runs better on WVO than a Benz!!

I am sure there are many in the junk yard? Any pics of your conversion? Step by step?

Mercedesrover · 08-29-2005, 08:31 AM

If any of you are interested, I'm now making an adapter plate and pilot bushing to bring a Mercedes diesel and Land Rover transmission together. There's still a fair amount of work to do but this will get you started.

PM or email me.

jim
pbs@mohawk.net

Cerberus · 08-29-2005, 03:29 PM

Mercedesrover, thats an interesting conversion. What engine is the adapter ring designed to fit? is it the 4,5 or 6 cylinder engine? Out of curiosity, how much would you charge for one of those adapter kits. The reason I ask is that I wouldn't mind converting my own series to a diesel but I would like to stick to a six cylinder. That kind of limits me to Nissan Patrol, or early Toyota Landcruiser. Old Mercs with big diesels can be bought quite cheaply here and have rep for reliability and decent power. It might be nice to try a 300D engine.

Dave.

Mercedesrover · 08-29-2005, 05:32 PM

They fit the 616/617 4/5 cyl. Mercedes diesel engines. The 2.4 616 is perfect for an 88" and will work in a 109 but may be a bit underpowered at around 70hp. The 3.0 617 is a bit big but it's been done before, but not by myself. That may be my next project. Anyway, both engines have the same rear pattern and this adaptor will work equally well with either.

The adapter with all the studs and bolts and a pilot bushing is $600 US plus shipping.

If you're interested, drop me an email.

jim
pbs@mohawk.net

Edit: Here's what it looks like done.

AAXD · 09-02-2005, 11:30 PM

Jim, Will you be at Lime Rock this weekend for the fall festival?

Mercedesrover · 09-03-2005, 06:33 AM

I forgot all about that! Sure, I'll be there Sunday. Is the gang from Mass. coming down again? Who else is going?

LANDY96 · 09-06-2005, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercedesrover

They fit the 616/617 4/5 cyl. Mercedes diesel engines. The 2.4 616 is perfect for an 88" and will work in a 109 but may be a bit underpowered at around 70hp. The 3.0 617 is a bit big but it's been done before, but not by myself. That may be my next project. Anyway, both engines have the same rear pattern and this adaptor will work equally well with either.

The adapter with all the studs and bolts and a pilot bushing is $600 US plus shipping.

If you're interested, drop me an email.

jim
pbs@mohawk.net

Edit: Here's what it looks like done.

Will that adapter plate work on a Disco r380 5-speed?? If so, I want one!!!

OkieRover · 09-06-2005, 08:10 AM

I wanted to do this soooooo bad.
I had a 300 turbo lined up to buy for $1000 with all the accessories in place.
If I have to have a new engine in the future I'm going with Mercedes.

AAXD · 09-16-2005, 09:14 AM

Will the Merc 2.5 TD from a 300D work? I saw one yesterday and they looked like very robust engines, plus turbo'd

Mercedesrover · 09-17-2005, 04:02 PM

The 2.5 5cyl wasn't used in a 300D (E-class car) but in the 190D. There were two models available: the 602-911 normally aspirated and the 602-961 turbo. Not really thought of as a robust engine.

There was a 3.0 6cyl that was used in the 300D E-class car. There were also two models of this engine produced: the 603-960 and the 603-961 depending on if the car was a 300D or an SDL. Great motors but they're BIG and have lots of computer controls. Not ideal for a Land Rover!

06-30-2005, 03:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
AAXD Goofing off in the great white north. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Alaska's Emerald Isle Posts: 619 Gallery: 1	Conversion-Friendly Diesels Does anyone know of any diesel engines that are available in the US that will easily mate up to a Series running gear? I am looking for a possible engine for a SVO conversion in my '71 IIA and was wondering what others have had goodluck with running. I'd prefer a turbodiesel if possible. I'd like to do a 200/300/2.8l TDi conversion but am put off by the cost.

08-29-2005, 08:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mercedesrover Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cornwall Ct. Posts: 59 Gallery: 0	If any of you are interested, I'm now making an adapter plate and pilot bushing to bring a Mercedes diesel and Land Rover transmission together. There's still a fair amount of work to do but this will get you started. PM or email me. jim pbs@mohawk.net Last edited by Mercedesrover : 08-29-2005 at 12:44 PM.

08-29-2005, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cerberus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Derby-in the heart of the country Posts: 111 Gallery: 0	Mercedese into Landrover Mercedesrover, thats an interesting conversion. What engine is the adapter ring designed to fit? is it the 4,5 or 6 cylinder engine? Out of curiosity, how much would you charge for one of those adapter kits. The reason I ask is that I wouldn't mind converting my own series to a diesel but I would like to stick to a six cylinder. That kind of limits me to Nissan Patrol, or early Toyota Landcruiser. Old Mercs with big diesels can be bought quite cheaply here and have rep for reliability and decent power. It might be nice to try a 300D engine. Dave.

08-29-2005, 05:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mercedesrover Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cornwall Ct. Posts: 59 Gallery: 0	They fit the 616/617 4/5 cyl. Mercedes diesel engines. The 2.4 616 is perfect for an 88" and will work in a 109 but may be a bit underpowered at around 70hp. The 3.0 617 is a bit big but it's been done before, but not by myself. That may be my next project. Anyway, both engines have the same rear pattern and this adaptor will work equally well with either. The adapter with all the studs and bolts and a pilot bushing is $600 US plus shipping. If you're interested, drop me an email. jim pbs@mohawk.net Edit: Here's what it looks like done. Last edited by Mercedesrover : 08-30-2005 at 03:47 AM.

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07-08-2005, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mercedesrover Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cornwall Ct. Posts: 59 Gallery: 0	Not friendly but do-able. And there's nothing that runs better on WVO than a Benz!!

07-10-2005, 06:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kevin Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ex Rhodie in South Africa Posts: 93 Gallery: 1	I haven't seen them myself but here in S.A. a few chaps have put in Isuzu 2.8 td engines. They have also been doing it in the forward controls. On my last club trip there was a chap with a Nissan 3.0 diesel onto which he put a turbo. Don't know if that helps.

09-02-2005, 11:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
AAXD Goofing off in the great white north. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Alaska's Emerald Isle Posts: 619 Gallery: 1	Jim, Will you be at Lime Rock this weekend for the fall festival?

09-03-2005, 06:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mercedesrover Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cornwall Ct. Posts: 59 Gallery: 0	I forgot all about that! Sure, I'll be there Sunday. Is the gang from Mass. coming down again? Who else is going?

09-16-2005, 09:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
AAXD Goofing off in the great white north. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Alaska's Emerald Isle Posts: 619 Gallery: 1	Will the Merc 2.5 TD from a 300D work? I saw one yesterday and they looked like very robust engines, plus turbo'd

09-17-2005, 04:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mercedesrover Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cornwall Ct. Posts: 59 Gallery: 0	The 2.5 5cyl wasn't used in a 300D (E-class car) but in the 190D. There were two models available: the 602-911 normally aspirated and the 602-961 turbo. Not really thought of as a robust engine. There was a 3.0 6cyl that was used in the 300D E-class car. There were also two models of this engine produced: the 603-960 and the 603-961 depending on if the car was a 300D or an SDL. Great motors but they're BIG and have lots of computer controls. Not ideal for a Land Rover!

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