Mercedes 5cyd diesel?

[LANDY96]

Originally Posted by carlosz

Ok ladies and germs, here is some of the low down on engine swaps.
I am a virginia state cerified emmisions and safety inspector (big f'ng deal).
in class they said the following,
A) it is illegal (who cares) to install an older engine into a newer vehicle, however it is completely legal to install a newer engine in to an older vehicle
according to EPA and DEQ.
B) the new motor must comply and have installed all emmisions related components as the engine being removed (in order to be legal)
C)if the swap includes or is to be a fuel type (gas to diesel or vice versa)
the vehicle can be presented to the local offices of DEQ so they can veryfy
and give the proper cerification and or exempt for that vehicle.
same goes for hybrid conversions.

there are a few other rules, such as in virginia diesels donot get currently tested for emmissions, some states however do watch for excess smoke and will pull you over or cite you to be tested.
-Va has remote sensing devices wich take your tag and measure emmisions then send you notice to get re testd if you have failed.
-newer diesels with obd II thru OBD v, (cars to medium duty trucks and suv's)
will be tested soon in virginia ( when? we donot know).
hang loose be good and check your local laws.

carlos out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!!, luckily, here in SE Texas, no one cares!! I can install it, and never get told anything! No emissions testing for any cars. Gas or diesel. That is why I want to do all of this. I can even build a car here, and if it has lights turn-signals, and seat belts....and gets inspected by DOT, I can drive it on the road!

[Mercedesrover]

I’m going to run off a VERY small batch of my adapters this month. They mount a Mercedes 616/617 diesel engine to a Land Rover manual transmission. If anyone’s interested in one, contact me soon. This will be the last batch of adapters I do for at least a year or two.

The adapter will come with all the studs and bolts you’ll need as well as a new custom pilot shaft bushing. The also come with a block to replace the original oil filter housing as well as a gasket and bolts. The price is $700.00 plus shipping.

If you don’t already know, this conversion requires modifications to the upper and lower oil pan, the oil filter housing and a little to the flywheel. You’ll also have to fabricate your own motor mounts, as well as a hundred other little things when you do an engine conversion.

This is a proven conversion that’s been in my truck for 6 years now, with great success. There are also a number of other trucks on the road now with this conversion as well.

Jim
pbs@mohawk.net
www.seriestrek.com

[Roverlady]

What about torque?!

I had a 79 300D and an 81 300D....and, although they were not turbo-diesels, they did not seem to be very powerful or torquey. Would that really be enough HP for a Disco or RR? Wouldn't that be less powerful than the 3.9L?

I'm sure it would be a good choice for a Series though!!

[TsiArt]

One thing.

How would someone retain the functionalyty of the electrical in the Disco when there is no need for the ECU anymore ?

I noticed that when I had my ecu unpluged one day ( trouble shooting a problem with the motor ) , the front windows would not rool down , only the back ones .

And looking into the book i see that there is more stuff connected to the ecu , then just the motor .

[TerryS]

Originally Posted by TsiArt

One thing.

How would someone retain the functionalyty of the electrical in the Disco when there is no need for the ECU anymore ?

I noticed that when I had my ecu unpluged one day ( trouble shooting a problem with the motor ) , the front windows would not rool down , only the back ones .

And looking into the book i see that there is more stuff connected to the ecu , then just the motor .

You're correct, the miserable Gems ECU has an immobilizer function too. I do not know off hand how you would get around it, Though remember seeing it on another website. There have been plenty of Disco conversions to diesels (Off hand I don't know of any to MB engines, but 200 & 300Tdi) I rather suspect, a few hrs with a multimeter and you could find a way to rewire the windows.

[LANDY96]

Ok folks!!! I think I may be stupid enough to attempt this conversion. I have acquired a 96 D1 with a 5-speed. It has a bad engine, and I just happen to have a mercedes 5cylinder engine(617a) just lying around the house.... So I have started making contact with people who could kick some ideas around. All I have to find is an adapter plate for the r380, yeah....that will be easy!!! I will keep you informed and I will also post pictures if this is a go!! Thanks people!!!

[Mercedesrover]

Sent you an email, Eric. Don't know if you got it. I've got one adapter left if you're interested and it'll probably be the last I make for a while. My adapters have been used with an R380 and although I haven't done it myself, word is you only have to relocate one or two studs and they work just fine.

I'm in the middle of developing another kit that will mate a Mercedes 616/617 diesel to an NP435 or T-18 American 4-speed transmission. (My 109 is getting this engine and an NP435) I hope to have the my engine and transmission together by this time next week.

jim

[daway]

Originally Posted by LANDY96

Ok folks!!! I think I may be stupid enough to attempt this conversion. I have acquired a 96 D1 with a 5-speed. It has a bad engine, and I just happen to have a mercedes 5cylinder engine(617a) just lying around the house.... So I have started making contact with people who could kick some ideas around. All I have to find is an adapter plate for the r380, yeah....that will be easy!!! I will keep you informed and I will also post pictures if this is a go!! Thanks people!!!

eric, good luck and let us know how it goes w/ the benz engine. i remember when u kicked yourself for sale'n your 5 speed disco, glad to see u found another one.