The best overall Bull Bar. ? ?? ?

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by slangel

You are an idiot - look at his signature and what is referred to as the antichrist.

So he has a vehicle with a tag including 666, which is the sign of the antichrist. He has still chosen to identify himself as the antichrist and I personally find it offensive. I call my vehicles a lot of names, I don't use them as my username.

[slangel]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

So he has a vehicle with a tag including 666, which is the sign of the antichrist. He has still chosen to identify himself as the antichrist and I personally find it offensive. I call my vehicles a lot of names, I don't use them as my username.

So you are just now finding it offensive?? So put him on your ignore list and don't converse with him.....boy......no sense of humor either.....bet you are a LOAD of fun!

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by slangel

So you are just now finding it offensive?? So put him on your ignore list and don't converse with him.....boy......no sense of humor either.....bet you are a LOAD of fun!

I have always found it offensive, I have just not made comment up to now. My sense of humor in this thread ran out around page 3.

[slangel]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

I have always found it offensive, I have just not made comment up to now. My sense of humor in this thread ran out around page 3.

Again there is an ignore feature you can utilize , besides thought you were done with this thread a while ago??

[Expedition Nutter]

This thread is pathetic, with over 150 posts of people bickering over ARB/Rovertym..... Give it a break! Let's just agree that EITHER aftermarket bumper is about 1 million times better than the stock crap you take off. Personally, I like both, but I like the looks of the ARB better. That's my opinion. I think both are strong, I think they can both take abuse. I also can admit that neither is infalable.

[antichrist]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

Misquoting again

Oh really? Good luck generally = good fortune. But now you want people to believe that you meant it would be bad luck? And the Darwin awards are generally first thought of as people who have killed themselves through stupidity. I think anyone with half a brain knows exactly what you meant.

Originally Posted by p76rangie

With any luck we will read about you in the Darwin awards. The heading would be something like "The law did not require me to be safe".

Or maybe, based on your last few posts, it's not luck at all for you, but that the Lord will bless you with my death. Sorta like Pat Robertson praying for the death of supreme court justices.
I doubt you read the Atlanta paper, so I'll be sure to have my obituary posted here so you can have a day filled with "luck".

[antichrist]

Originally Posted by Expedition Nutter

This thread is pathetic, with over 150 posts of people bickering over ARB/Rovertym.....

For the record I wasn't discussing any particular make bumper. My comments were strictly about airbag "compliant" vs "non-compliant" and the effects on airbag deployment, regardless of mfg. In fact I don't think I ever mentioned Rovertym until p76, in his twisted logic, felt it pertinent to the discussion that I'd bought something from them. I guess that means I have an allegiance to ARB since I've bought stuff from them too.
I do agree the thread is pretty pathetic though.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by antichrist

Oh really? Good luck generally = good fortune. But now you want people to believe that you meant it would be bad luck? And the Darwin awards are generally first thought of as people who have killed themselves through stupidity. I think anyone with half a brain knows exactly what you meant.
Or maybe, based on your last few posts, it's not luck at all for you, but that the Lord will bless you with my death. Sorta like Pat Robertson praying for the death of supreme court justices.
I doubt you read the Atlanta paper, so I'll be sure to have my obituary posted here so you can have a day filled with "luck".

Do you actually research anything before you open your mouth. Not all Darwin awards deal with a death. They are stupid acts that result is some ill effect on the person doing them. For example, someone using a taser on themselves. Yes, I believe your views in regard to safety are stupid and I believe that they will come back and bite you someday.

[TerryS]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

a vehicle hitting the barrier at 60mph is equivalent to two similar vehicles having a head on crash where both vehicles are doing 60mph.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by TerryS

Just read the link that I posted if you are confused. It surprised me too when I first read it, but was logical once I thought about it.
Read the second paragraph of page 164 of the report.

[antichrist]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

Do you actually research anything before you open your mouth. Not all Darwin awards deal with a death.

And do you read before you open your mouth? I said, and I quote, "And the Darwin awards are generally first thought of as people who have killed themselves through stupidity"
And from the Darwin Awards people:

Named in honor of Charles Darwin, the father of evolution, the Darwin Awards commemorate those who improve our gene pool by removing themselves from it.

But please continue to backpedal furiously, it doesn't matter, people know how you intended the comment.

[antichrist]

Speaking of research (relevant bit in red)

So how are the Darwin Awards actually determined?

Nominees significantly improve the gene pool by eliminating themselves from the human race in an obviously stupid way. They are self-selected examples of the dangers inherent in a lack of common sense, and all human races, cultures, and socioeconomic groups are eligible to compete. Actual winners must meet the following criteria:

Reproduction
Out of the gene pool: dead or sterile.
Excellence
Astounding misapplication of judgment.
Self-Selection
Cause one's own demise.
Maturity
Capable of sound judgment.
Veracity
The event must be true.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by antichrist

Speaking of research (relevant bit in red)

Try these stories in Darwin awards. They are non-death ones:
Taser Test
The Bricklayer
Unfortunate Husband II
Roping a Deer
Raccoon Rocket


and these only took less than a minute to find.

The Darwin Award site has various classifications of stories. Some of these are:
Honorable Mentions
The stupidity displayed by the participants
in the following tales stops short of the ultimate
sacrifice, but we salute their spirit and innovation.
Urban Legends
These apocryphal stories are included as examples of Herculean Darwinian efforts. Be glad, be very glad, these people don't exist.
Personal Accounts
We salute the spirit portrayed in the following
personal accounts, submitted by loyal
and sometimes reluctant readers.

I did say that we would read about you in the Darwin awards. I read them from time to time and know that not all the stories on the site involve death. You turn to back peddle again.

[antichrist]

Good to see your reading comprehension (lack of) skills don't only apply to technical issues.
I'll leave you to your fantasy now. Cheers.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by antichrist

Good to see your reading comprehension (lack of) skills don't only apply to technical issues.
I'll leave you to your fantasy now. Cheers.

You have never come up with one fact to back up anything you have said. All you ever do is make a statement and say prove me wrong. I have done this time and time again. Once proved wrong on one point, you attempt to drag up something else.

The simple fact of this discussion has been that I have stated that you should take into account the safety impacts of the bull bar you are buying. Your stance is that the safety aspects are irrelevant and if they are not required by law, you should not worry about it.

It might be just the difference in social rules between our countries, I do not know. We have it drummed into us every day about safety on the roads. We are penalised very heavily if we break these safety rules. It also gives a degree of comfort that there is a low chance of others breaking those rules when your on the road. This may contribute to us having half the death rate in vehicles of those in the US

The RTE bull bar is one of the unsafest bars I have seen currently on the market. It breaks just about every design rule as to what is safe to the occupants of the vehicle and to other road users. People here and in the UK have to put up with articles and news items every second week about how dangerous bull bars are and how they should be banned. They have been banned in some european countries. So we are very conscious of the image they can instill. I do not even think that it is well designed for offroad either

So you stick to your argument that safety is not an issue and I will stick to it being one. Of course to get people to accept any concept you have to show what is in it for them. This is why YOUR crash statistics have been highlighted. Too many people buy SUVs because they think they are safer than normal cars. These people are the concern, as they are not. People driving SUVs need to think about their safety as they are more vulnerable than others. They also should consider the impact of their vehicles on others if they were in an accident. For example, the recovery points on the front of the RTE bar would rip open any car it hit and would severely injure or kill any pedestrian.

You just have no comprehension of safety for yourself or others. Therefore anything I say just gets ignored. Hopefully some of the points I have raised have at least got people thinking that your vehicles are not the "Tanks" of the road and they should think about the safety of themselves, their family, and other road users.

But in you just keep on trying to shoot down anything I say by irrelevant, non-factual, statements. Good luck in the future as you will need it with your approach to life.