Big Blues?:boobies:

[ArmyRover]

if it makes anyone feel better I don't like the ride quality of the OME's on my truck but they were free so oh well

[GDEclassic]

Roverhound, you act like a know it all.I dont know it all. Help me out bud. "Cheap shit sucks" intelligent and helpful advice...
As for everyone else, BB seems 2 soft apparently. I def. do not want to have to replace again soon. Maybe OME? WHos got the best price for OME? and Rovertym Sags too? I want NO sagging. Especially at the cost of rovertym springs
Sorry discoxd...sick rover though
What are my other options? Scorpion? Where do i order this stuff from? Who carries scorpion? Thanks for your help. I badly need springs, shocks, and possibly a new dampener as well? ANy more input/advice/good companies to order from?
Thanks Guys

[gordo]

They can all sag to be honest. If you want a small lift go OME, for a taller lift probably RTE. I have the MD OME on my classic and love them but it is a DD and nothing more. Wifes D1 has OME HD and rides even more firm, but the lift is nearly identical. About 1-1.5 inches or so. Also running Bilsteins so that adds to the stiffness. I do think that RTE would stand behind their springs if you had an issue though and lots of folks swear by their springs. Gordo

[chrisvonc]

Originally Posted by apbtpetey

You say Big Blues are shit I disagree. There are people that say OME are crap and the stuff from RTE is crap, because of certain issues they had with them.

Why do you think the Big Blues are crap? Have you owned a set or you just going by a few that had problems with them?

The difference is, OME are not crap and they have years and years, and years under their belt in the world wide market place establishing themselves across multiple vehicle manufactures that they are a proven replacement option.

[apbtpetey]

Originally Posted by chrisvonc

The difference is, OME are not crap and they have years and years, and years under their belt in the world wide market place establishing themselves across multiple vehicle manufactures that they are a proven replacement option.

Chris,

I understand that OME has been around for years and that they are decent and work for alot of people. What I was doing was giving my opinion of the Big Blues based on my personal experience with them. Roverhound said Big Blues are cheap and shitty. Based on my experience I had no problems with Big Blues and like I said I never owned OME or RTE or any other set ups out there for Rovers. People have had problems with all of the set ups at some point. For what I did the Big Blues worked great, are they right for everybody? No, are OME or the others right for everybody? No.

Big Blues are little softer then the other set ups, so I have been told anyway, but after 20,000 miles on the Big Blues and Pro comp shocks, there was no sagging or anything like that at all and packed the Disco up on the heavy side more then a few times.

I am not telling the guy to go out and get the Big Blues, just giving him my personal experience with them which happens to be very good. If I had a bad experience with them I would have told him what problems I had with them.

[Roverhound]

John, I've talked to people who have BB springs, and I've run Pro Comp shocks.
They are both cheap for a reason. Let me rephrase that, inexpensive.
If you have actually driven a truck daily with better springs and shocks you would know the difference.
I just changed out the Pro Comps on my truck with Bilsteins and it
s a night and day difference! And that's just the rears!
I'll get the front's on this weekend and I expect it to be that much better.
Here's the deal, I got the Pro Comps knowing they were a cheap shock that would hold me over if they didn't self destruct (do a search, they tend to do that).
And no, Rovertym springs don't sag, there were supposed issues early on but Steve made good on them even though some of those issues were never really confirmed.
GDE, RTE springs are $295 for 2" and 3". The BB's are $260 for the same. That's expensive for 4 springs? So what are you willing to pay?
People are always selling used springs if you're really that cheap.
Visit different sites. People here tend to high five everything no matter how shitty it is. Do a search on home made snorkels and you'll see what I mean.

[Buddy Lee]

Originally Posted by GDEclassic

Rovertym Sags too? I want NO sagging. Especially at the cost of rovertym springs

I've had two sets of RTE Springs and neither of them sagged I even bought the 3" springs used they are a little rusty because they came from up north but they don't sag. Also almost everybody I know runs RTE springs and other then 1 person who happens to have posted in this thread I have never heard a complaint about them sagging. As another note OME also tend to be more expensive then RTE depending on where you buy them.

OME I only know couple of persons personally that run them and they seem happy with them as well. I can't speak for BB springs don't know anybody that runs them and have never seen anybody that runs them. That alone is enough to make me wonder.

Other options are Britpart springs the yellow ones Rovers north sells them but they are pretty much the same price as RTE springs and not really proven in the US because they are a new product.

[Buddy Lee]

Originally Posted by Roverhound

GDE, RTE springs are $295 for 2" and 3". The BB's are $260 for the same. That's expensive for 4 springs? So what are you willing to pay?
People are always selling used springs if you're really that cheap.

I totally agree with this.

OME I think sell for around $140/pair that's right between those two. If your going to worry about $20-35 when trying to build your truck then you own the wrong type of vehicle.

if you really can't afford it just wait for used. I sold some 2" springs for $200 at MAR this year and they where spotless not a spec of rust on them. Too bad I can't say that for the 3" ones I bought. But I didn't pay as much for them either so.....

[01001010]

www.4x4ag.com carries Scorpion gear...I suggest you call the number posted on the site as they may take a while to respond to emails. You'll most likely speak to Adrian (he has always answered the phone). Both guys can be contacted here as well; their screen names are JohnC and AdrianS

I agree with Buddy. If a few bucks difference is a big concern, then you DEFINITELY own the wrong vehicle. And with an RRC, chances are you have unspoken or unknown mechanical/electrical problems.

Unless you're riding around on your bumpstops or have a shock(s) that cause horrible vibrations, I would recommend you take care of all of the necessary things first before modifying.

[apbtpetey]

Roverhound,

I am not saying the Big Blues and the Pro Comps are the best, but they are not as crappy as some try to lead people to belive they are. For the price the Big Blues and Pro Comp set up isn't a bad deal. Never said they were the best, but they are not a bad deal for the money.

I have driven other things with various set ups for off-road. As for my Disco the first set up I tried was the 3" Big Blues with Pro Comps and didn't have a problem with them. They did what I asked of them without issue and never let me down. Are there better set ups? Sure there are, but this certain set up worked out fine for my disco. As for Bilstien shocks, I had them on different things from a Pick-up to a Lincoln Mark VIII and to be honest I found them to be very stiff and gave everything a rougher ride. I didn't want that with my rover so I didn't use them.

[Roverhound]

Originally Posted by apbtpetey

Roverhound,

I am not saying the Big Blues and the Pro Comps are the best, but they are not as crappy as some try to lead people to belive they are. For the price the Big Blues and Pro Comp set up isn't a bad deal. Never said they were the best, but they are not a bad deal for the money.

I have driven other things with various set ups for off-road. As for my Disco the first set up I tried was the 3" Big Blues with Pro Comps and didn't have a problem with them. They did what I asked of them without issue and never let me down. Are there better set ups? Sure there are, but this certain set up worked out fine for my disco. As for Bilstien shocks, I had them on different things from a Pick-up to a Lincoln Mark VIII and to be honest I found them to be very stiff and gave everything a rougher ride. I didn't want that with my rover so I didn't use them.

I agree with your statement and they aren't as bad as some may say (at least with the shocks from personal experiance). I've heard horror stories about both of them from people I know.
As far as the Bilsteins, they control the RTE springs a whole lot better then the Pro Comps can. My ride is actually smoother now and I think I'm regrowing hair.
I think my main issue is somebody looking at the cheapest springs out there and calling them pricey. That's pretty funny

[Funrover]

I would spend the extra $$$ on either RTE or OME from what I have seen/tested..... You will be happy!

my OME kit made it 4 years with me(which IMO is a great track record)
I just installed RTE springs and bilsteins... So far I really like the ride!

[GDEclassic]

I dont think i really realized how close in price they were. 20-30 bucks isnt crazy more to spend IF IT IS WORTH IT. ANd its not that im cheap, but that i dont have alot of ...extra money.
petey thank you for your opinion on the BB's. Im still considering.
Def. overall theme seems to be that rovertym kicks ass and is worth the extra money. highly considering them now. Thanks funrover. worth the money is what i want to hear.

"If a few bucks difference is a big concern, then you DEFINITELY own the wrong vehicle. And with an RRC, chances are you have unspoken or unknown mechanical/electrical problems.
Unless you're riding around on your bumpstops or have a shock(s) that cause horrible vibrations, I would recommend you take care of all of the necessary things first before modifying."

...0001010100 or whatever your name is...piss off. COnsidering you know me and all i guess you think you can tell me what kind of car i should drive? should i get a friken cavalier? screw you. ANd you have no goddamn clue what kind of mechanical condition my rover is in so try thinking before speaking. Want me to take a picture of my shocks for you? Im not special ed. I think i can decide when my car needs shocks. thanks anyway.
youtoo roverrhound. i dont know much about this $h!t. apparently you have a problem with me trying to learn.

One more quest for evryone else? what about shocks? 2+ length shocks?what brand you prefer? I am hearign alot about bilstein.whose got part numbers and junk?

[01001010]

Yikes! Of all the years and all the boards I've ever been on...That's the first time I've ever been told to "Piss Off" and "Screw You"

I do apologize. I am in no place to tell you what vehicle is for you and which isn't. I didn't mean to offend you in any way. When I wrote that, I was thinkin back to when I first got my truck. I started playing with it, modifying it and put maint. aside for a bit...now I'm wishin I would have spent more time, money and effort making the proper repairs before making cuts, unbolting and bolting stuff on. I'm noticing that this is the trend amongst new and young owners.

I also tell you this because the youngest RRC is now 12 years old...at 12 years, unless its an ultra low mileage vehicle (maybe 30k miles or less), things WILL be wrong with it. If your shocks are shot...then yes, this is the favorable time to upgrade.

Once again, I meant no offense. My apologies.

[GDEclassic]

thank you. you now seem to be stereo typing "young owners" but im gonna let that slide. My truck does have high miles. But with ANY car THINGS WILL GO WRONG. I understand the reprocusions of owning a vehicle.
I appreciate the apology. I am just trying to make educated decisions by asking questions. The best way to find out who makes quality $h!t.