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Old 09-06-2006, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well i decieded to do it.. I am officially turning my AC compressor into on board air... I never use AC here it's a waste for me... I have done it with other compressors and vehicles before... My question is has anyone else here used the factory compressor? thanks!!
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doesnt arzell have it installed? saved ryans ass on the top of red cone if my memory serves me...
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i talked about the eas compressor on lrr a wk ago. i heard that people have convert and used there eas compressor to fill up tires and etc. some said they did not get that much air pressure. but i have not seen any pics or how to do it. what yr rrc do u have aaron? i could not remember? maybe the eas info would b good for people that use there ac? it will b cool to hear what others have to say
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doesnt arzell have it installed? saved ryans ass on the top of red cone if my memory serves me...
Arsell has a ARB pump....... that's different!
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i talked about the eas compressor on lrr a wk ago. i heard that people have convert and used there eas compressor to fill up tires and etc. some said they did not get that much air pressure. but i have not seen any pics or how to do it. what yr rrc do u have aaron? i could not remember? maybe the eas info would b good for people that use there ac? it will b cool to hear what others have to say
Well I am not useing the EAS system coompressor because it does not produce enough!!!! Mine is a 92 RRC......

I was looking on www.onboardair.com (SP) and talking witha guy who did the conversio with a York 210 to a powertank........ I am useing the original ac compressor in mine....... The EAS system from my understanding is a low pressure set up....
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Well I am not useing the EAS system coompressor because it does not produce enough!!!! Mine is a 92 RRC......

I was looking on www.onboardair.com (SP) and talking witha guy who did the conversio with a York 210 to a powertank........ I am useing the original ac compressor in mine....... The EAS system from my understanding is a low pressure set up....
dam, thats to bad i was hoping it would produce enough. my wife would never let me disconnect the ac. nice link that would b sweet to have one of them!! thanks for the info. let me know how it goes!
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I used the original air-con compressor on mine. Just disconnected the air-con and connected up the air tank. But mine was a York compressor. What exactly are you wanting to know.

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I could imagine the stock A/C compressor would create the reasonable vacuum, to push over 2 lbs. of R-12 at one point. But yeah like Ian said Aaron, a reservoir tank would be good to store your on-board air.

Very clever idea if I say so myself...although my A/C still works, so I won't be doing this anytime soon.
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I went with a 2.5 gallon Viair tank and a Masterflow MV-50 compressor... got a kit from Viair with the pressure switch, wiring, gauges... a few extras such as a pressure release valve, draincock, fittings, etc.. all for under $200... mounted discretly in a storage bin in the back of my D2... fills tires fast, gives nice bursts for airtools... eventually will be plumbed to air lockers once i get them.
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I used the original air-con compressor on mine. Just disconnected the air-con and connected up the air tank. But mine was a York compressor. What exactly are you wanting to know.

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Any pics? also what did you do about oil for the compressor?
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York compressors have a sump and do not need any additional oil.

Or you could get something like this.
http://www.4wdworld.com.au/tipstricks/endless.htm

For the air tank and controls, you buy something like this and throw away the motor and compressor and use the rest.
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...4+3966&pos=n24
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Sorry, but that second link did not work that well. It was a link to your retail outlet called Home Depot. But here is the compressor I was referring to. You should be able to pick up something similar for less though.

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I suppose I should give a more detailed description on how you set the tank up. Find a tank around 4 to 5 gallons that will fit in the back of your 4WD. On the picture posted, the silver and black thing at the front is the 110 volt compressor and motor. You do not want this so unbolt it and throw it away. On the top left of the compressor, you will see a black thing that looks like a small can. This is the air filter for the compressor. Unbolt it and fit it to the air intake pipe fitted to your air-con compressor, so it filters the air. There is a pipe that runs from the 110 volt compressor to the tank. You can see where it goes into the tank at the bottom right of the tanks. Unbolt it from the compressor and slide the hose that goes to the output side of your aircon compressor over the pipe and use a hose clamp to secure it.

You will see a small black box on the front of the tanks with various wires and hoses going to it. This is the pressure switch. That is, it cuts power to the motor when the pressure in the tank gets to its set level. It also incorporates a blow-off valve in case the tank gets too much pressure. Pull the cover off the pressure switch and disconnect the high voltage cable going through it. In its place, connect up a wiring that goes to the body earth on one side of the switch and to the earth side of the realy you use to activate the air-con compressor. Then that is basically it for the tank end. It is now ready to connect your air hose to to run air tools, pump up tyres, etc.

Under the bonnet you should have a relay that will provide power to the air-con compressor. On the relay there are basically 4 pins. two are the in and out for the power to the compressor. The other 2 are the positive and negative to activate the relay. In the instructions for the tank, I said to connect the earth of the activating part of the relay through the pressure switch on the tank. This will switch off the air-con compressor when the tank gets up to pressure. The positive side of the activation pins on the relay goes to a switch on your dash that is then connected to a power supply that is only active with the ignition switched on.

Thats about it. Simple isn't it. Just one word of warning, the air coming out of the air-con compressor will be hot. It will melt normal air hose. So make sure that you buy a hose that goes between the compressor and the tank that can take the heat as well as the air pressure.

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I could imagine the stock A/C compressor would create the reasonable vacuum, to push over 2 lbs. of R-12 at one point. But yeah like Ian said Aaron, a reservoir tank would be good to store your on-board air.

Very clever idea if I say so myself...although my A/C still works, so I won't be doing this anytime soon.
i just want the eas compressor to fill up tires when i am in the back roads or off roading for now (dont have exrta $$$$ at this time), but it would be nice to have atank and more pressure for tools and etc. pat i think i read on the site that aaron put up that u can do it w/ non-AC, did not read into to much but had AC and non-AC? so it sounds like it would b easy to convert the eas. i just see it setting there not used.
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Wasn't this supposed to be a great deal when it was selling for less than 50 bucks?

From what I've seen, everyone that has bought it has given it great reviews.

I know it's a bit off topic, but it seems like a great option if you're on a tighter budget.

EDIT: I couldn't find this page where they documented a direct comparison between the MV-50 and VIAIR, but I did find this thread on basically the same subject. HTH.
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