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GreatDivide1 · 04-30-2008, 07:33 PM

<-----lol lincoln locked and loving it lol

TN-LR3 · 04-30-2008, 07:44 PM

I would run ARB front and detroit rear, I have seen this combo on a few rovers and on plenty of rock buggies,cab trucks,toyota's,etc..... and it works great. The detroit does kindof hop on tight turns

p76rangie · 05-01-2008, 05:27 AM

Shock loaded detroit

Disco Mike · 05-01-2008, 06:37 AM

Yes, and there are plenty of ARB pictures out there too showing how they can fail.

I was advised and do run HR axles because of the Detroit.

And why would anyone put in an Eaton in a Rover??????????????

Good luck with what ever you do.

Mike

p76rangie · 05-01-2008, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco Mike

Yes, and there are plenty of ARB pictures out there too showing how they can fail.

The only times I have heard of an ARB failing is when some clown engages it while they are spinning wheels.
I biggest issue with the detroit is not their ability to fail, it is their lack of spider gears. That is, their inability to supply drive to both wheels when both have traction and one wheel is turning faster than the other. This defeats the basic concept of a diff.

xd97disco · 05-01-2008, 08:25 AM

E-lockers?

XtremeMarine · 05-01-2008, 08:59 AM

There are a lot of guys on Pirate running the Toyota third conversions with e-lockers. Besides trusting an electrical component immersed in mud and water, never heard anything bad about them at all.

RonL · 05-01-2008, 08:59 AM

no e-lockers for Rover yet, but their wires could get "hooked" the same as an ARBs airline. Detriots can cause road handling issues and can break interally if you do break a axle shaft.

For me it is ARB or stock. Once you beef-up the carrier(with a detriot/TrTrac/or ARB), the weak point is the axles, once they are stronger(heavy-duty shafts) you push the stress somewhere else, maybe the driveshafts or t-case. I like having my axles as my weak point. They are easy to fit(on a Disco1) and if they break in the woods you are not as "hosed" as breaking your t-case.

Jupiter Rover · 05-01-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco Mike

Yes, and there are plenty of ARB pictures out there too showing how they can fail.

I was advised and do run HR axles because of the Detroit.

And why would anyone put in an Eaton in a Rover??????????????

Good luck with what ever you do.

Mike

Eaton (Eaton Corp.) makes detroit lockers.. Do they not?

Detroit Locker - Eaton.com

Crysyn · 05-01-2008, 09:36 AM

I have no personal experience with lockers as of yet, but Bill at Great Basin told me to do the Tru Trac front and rear plus heavy duty axles for what I wanted, but there was also a case for having the Detroit on the rear depending on the type of wheeling. The Tru Trac on the front sounds like a no brainer. Obviously there are arguments for going with the ARB, but Bill's sound advice weighed heavily on my decision as does Disco Mike's and XtremeMarine's experience so I am going to do the T.T. front and rear on my Disco II.

ArmyRover · 05-01-2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonL

no e-lockers for Rover yet, but their wires could get "hooked" the same as an ARBs airline.

LR3's have a e locker. Also if your doing the toyota conversion you have a elocker option there as well

antichrist · 05-01-2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jupiter Rover

ARB is a full locker, detroits and trutac are kinda half lockers

TrueTrac's are not lockers, they are limited slip diffs.
Detroit lockers are full lockers, not half lockers (whatever that is). You just can't totally control when they lock like with a manually engaged locker.

Disco Mike · 05-01-2008, 01:10 PM

Tom,
You should have said you can't control when a Detroit unlocks, cause they are normally always locked.
Mike

Jupiter Rover · 05-01-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antichrist

TrueTrac's are not lockers, they are limited slip diffs.
Detroit lockers are full lockers, not half lockers (whatever that is). You just can't totally control when they lock like with a manually engaged locker.

what i meant by half locker, is that T.T is like you said a limited slip. and detroit unlocks and locks on its on. where ARB when you lock it. it is 100% locked no matter what, that is all i meant..

and Eaton makes Detroit and T.T disco mike.

p76rangie · 05-01-2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco Mike

cause they are normally always locked.
Mike

Only when going in a straight line with no bumps or when there is poor traction. Is this your "normal" driving?

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TN-LR3 Ben Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Posts: 641 Gallery: 0	I would run ARB front and detroit rear, I have seen this combo on a few rovers and on plenty of rock buggies,cab trucks,toyota's,etc..... and it works great. The detroit does kindof hop on tight turns __________________ 1997 D-90 #1345- Bunch of stuff 1992 RRC LSE- for sale/ maybe crawler project 2002 Dodge ram 2500CTD- dd/tow rig

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p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 1,959 Gallery: 0	Shock loaded detroit Attached Thumbnails

05-01-2008, 08:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
XtremeMarine Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,404 Gallery: 0	There are a lot of guys on Pirate running the Toyota third conversions with e-lockers. Besides trusting an electrical component immersed in mud and water, never heard anything bad about them at all. __________________ "In certain places, at certain hours, gazing at the sea is dangerous. It is what looking at a woman sometimes is." - Victor Hugo

05-01-2008, 08:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
RonL Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Gallery: 0	no e-lockers for Rover yet, but their wires could get "hooked" the same as an ARBs airline. Detriots can cause road handling issues and can break interally if you do break a axle shaft. For me it is ARB or stock. Once you beef-up the carrier(with a detriot/TrTrac/or ARB), the weak point is the axles, once they are stronger(heavy-duty shafts) you push the stress somewhere else, maybe the driveshafts or t-case. I like having my axles as my weak point. They are easy to fit(on a Disco1) and if they break in the woods you are not as "hosed" as breaking your t-case. __________________ RonL Hesston, KS 1997 & 1999 Discovery Series1

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05-01-2008, 06:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	Yes, and there are plenty of ARB pictures out there too showing how they can fail. I was advised and do run HR axles because of the Detroit. And why would anyone put in an Eaton in a Rover?????????????? Good luck with what ever you do. Mike

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xd97disco Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 51 Gallery: 0	E-lockers?

05-01-2008, 09:36 AM	#25 (permalink)
Crysyn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 629 Gallery: 0	I have no personal experience with lockers as of yet, but Bill at Great Basin told me to do the Tru Trac front and rear plus heavy duty axles for what I wanted, but there was also a case for having the Detroit on the rear depending on the type of wheeling. The Tru Trac on the front sounds like a no brainer. Obviously there are arguments for going with the ARB, but Bill's sound advice weighed heavily on my decision as does Disco Mike's and XtremeMarine's experience so I am going to do the T.T. front and rear on my Disco II. __________________ 1999 DII 2001 DII (w/ACE)

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Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	Tom, You should have said you can't control when a Detroit unlocks, cause they are normally always locked. Mike

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