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Old 08-30-2007, 03:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Im an Ozi an doing what most people here wont a 4 inch lift on Discovery 2


my problem is what shocks to use Procomp which are cheap or Bilstein which are expensive I have a supplier here Australia that is selling Procomps quite cheap however he knows very little about his products


I been advise in my research that I need a shock with at least 11 inch travel
however im not sure if procomp fit Discovery 2 at all

so help here would be appreciated
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm Running the procomp ES9000 Extended length shocks.

they are about almost 3 inch longer over stock shocks and have more down travel.

I'm running them with a almost 4 inch lift on a 96 Discovery. They are cheap and some have gave them a bad rep but I love them so far!.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm Running the procomp ES9000 Extended length shocks.

they are about almost 3 inch longer over stock shocks and have more down travel.

I'm running them with a almost 4 inch lift on a 96 Discovery. They are cheap and some have gave them a bad rep but I love them so far!.
My biggest question I suppose is do they fit Disco 2
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Im an Ozi an doing what most people here wont a 4 inch lift on Discovery 2
And there is a reason for it.

But beside that, why do you think that you need longer shocks. Do you know how much longer your springs are compared to standard. A 4 inch lift does not mean that they are 4 inches longer. They may be the same length as standard or only 1 or 2 inches longer.

If you put longer shocks on, you will either have to raise the top shock mount or drop the bump stops to stop the wheel coming up as far as normal. Otherwise you will bend/break the shocks. As a rough estimate, you will need to raise the shock mounts or drop the bump stops by 2 inches for a shock that has an open length 4 inches longer.

Also you need to place your order for longer break lines, having your swivels redrilled, update your prop-shafts, etc, etc. Depending on what state you live in, but if it is along the east coast, the cops are really cracking down on spring lifts of the size your suggesting. Of course your insurance company won't pay out if your in an accident. The shocks are probably the least of your issues.
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And there is a reason for it.

But beside that, why do you think that you need longer shocks. Do you know how much longer your springs are compared to standard. A 4 inch lift does not mean that they are 4 inches longer. They may be the same length as standard or only 1 or 2 inches longer.

If you put longer shocks on, you will either have to raise the top shock mount or drop the bump stops to stop the wheel coming up as far as normal. Otherwise you will bend/break the shocks. As a rough estimate, you will need to raise the shock mounts or drop the bump stops by 2 inches for a shock that has an open length 4 inches longer.

Also you need to place your order for longer break lines, having your swivels redrilled, update your prop-shafts, etc, etc. Depending on what state you live in, but if it is along the east coast, the cops are really cracking down on spring lifts of the size your suggesting. Of course your insurance company won't pay out if your in an accident. The shocks are probably the least of your issues.
here in Australia a 4 inch lift is just that what my Disco sits over standard is another thing my springs are 4 inch longer then standard I have extended brake lines and ABS lines I also have front ACE sway bar links to go in the rear I have an order in for my modified watt linkage I know I have to lower the chassis cross member to clear the front prop shaft as far as insurance I have a specialized insurance which allows me to modify my four wheel drive

I know I need 10-12 inch shock travel bilstein no worries however $1500 later
where as Procomps $400 however procomp cant do the front end of a Disco 2 in its natural trim so lower shock mount need to be bought

this isn't something I thought of over night
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another thing my springs are 4 inch longer then standard
Springs that long open up a whole new lot of issues.

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I have a specialized insurance which allows me to modify my four wheel drive
No insurance company HERE in Oz will cover a D2 with a 4 inch spring lift. Simply it is illegal and would not be approved anywhere in Oz

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I know I need 10-12 inch shock travel
How have you worked this out. You should be quoting extended and closed lengths.

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so lower shock mount need to be bought
So you want longer shocks and lower upper shock mounts. Exactly how do you plan to stop them fully closing.

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this isn't something I thought of over night
Maybe not overnight, but most likely in your dreams
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I have a roughly 4" lift on a DII. (well, it's probably settled down to about 3.5"). There is nothing unsafe or unsound about it.

You will want 12" travel shocks, not 10".
As pointed out earlier, you'll definately need extended brake & ABS lines.
You'll want corrected Watts links, a serviceable front drive shaft, and either u/j on the rear shaft or carry extra roto.

Also, I suggest mounting your new tires on 4.25 b/s steelies to get a wider stance to match your height. Despite the amazing bead retention qualities of the stock alloys, you'll have too narrow a stance with that much lift.

Good luck. Don't be discouraged. Big DIIs are starting to be built all over the States.
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Normally to modify a Land Rover to run larger wheels you would use a body lift kit. Unfortunately it is ILEGAL to fit body lifts to and SRS vehicle in Australia. This limits what you have been unable to do with the D2's.

There were new rules in April 2006. This has outlawed the use of tyres larger than 33" for Australian roads. With the D2 it is possible to run a 34" tyre with only a minor suspension upgrade without flaring etc.
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Ushally I would bite back p76rangie as its been done before by one of our own here is Australia and sucessful

but so that your aware im of the procomp trail as I found very little info to the product along with no product knowledge by any one when it comes to rovers

instead Im splurging and going bilstein 7100 10" travel Reservoir Shock 360/80front and 400/100 rear Shaft Diameter 14mm Extended Length: 26.06" Collapsed Length: 16.03"

I have purchased extended brake lines ABS lines my chassis cross member has been modified watt linkage is modified and the front ACE sway bar links are going in the rear the only things yet to purchase are bump stops spring retainers and wheel spacers just to extend the width a little I run 265x75x16 Cooper STT which are about 33 Ill go a 34 later as these tryes are brand new

My dreams always come true bud however this isnt one
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I have a roughly 4" lift on a DII. (well, it's probably settled down to about 3.5"). There is nothing unsafe or unsound about it.

You will want 12" travel shocks, not 10".
As pointed out earlier, you'll definately need extended brake & ABS lines.
You'll want corrected Watts links, a serviceable front drive shaft, and either u/j on the rear shaft or carry extra roto.

Also, I suggest mounting your new tires on 4.25 b/s steelies to get a wider stance to match your height. Despite the amazing bead retention qualities of the stock alloys, you'll have too narrow a stance with that much lift.

Good luck. Don't be discouraged. Big DIIs are starting to be built all over the States.

Discouraged no way hehehehehe I am a little worried about stabilty though but Im not speed demon well not on public roads any way
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Pro Comp makes a 2" longer 9000es HD for the D2 that will bolt right in.
I'm running them now with about 4"s of lift.
That said, Pro Comps are a cheap shock and that's what you get when you pay that price. I haven't really had problems with them but some have. Make sure you get poly bushing with them as the rubber will not last.
Go here, www.discoweb.org for better answers to your questions.
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Pro Comp makes a 2" longer 9000es HD for the D2 that will bolt right in.
I'm running them now with about 4"s of lift.
That said, Pro Comps are a cheap shock and that's what you get when you pay that price. I haven't really had problems with them but some have. Make sure you get poly bushing with them as the rubber will not last.
Go here, www.discoweb.org for better answers to your questions.

I think I stick to Bilstein as you said you get what you pay for but thank you
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Could any one advise of where to get a good set of Spring Retentions from do they make one for D2 top and bottom
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Could any one advise of where to get a good set of Spring Retentions from do they make one for D2 top and bottom
www.rovertym.com or www.expeditionexchange.com
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I hope they do www.rovertym.com because www.expeditionexchange.com dont
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