stock vs Equipe

[roverandom]

I don't want to nit pick but I just noticed that the stocker also still has its anti-sway bars! But I suppose that is part of what makes it 'stock'. Never mind, brain fart.
Nice pic's.

[Roverhound]

Roll it Justin! I wanna see that stock truck on it's side!

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

How much has been stripped out of the stock Disco?
It does not look like it has the motor in it and a lot of other stuff appears to have been taken out.

TROLL go away.

yes the motor is in it and all the big bits. missing some seats and a fender.

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by apbtpetey

Great pics, I will say though that looking at just the front there doesn't seem to much difference in travel (again just looking at the front) The big difference is in the flex in the rear.

Is there a way to measure how much the front axle moves with your setup compared to the stock setup?

Hands down I would take your setup compared to the stock setup, but the front does seem to be way more limited in travel compared to the rear.

I guess what I am asking is if the stock setup was to have the rear changed to your same rear setup and the front left stock what would the difference in flexing be????

You are still going to get big flex from the rear. the front will not drop down as far as mine in a cross axle situation. the stock shocks are to short. Dose this answer your question?

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by roverandom

X2 on that, also the 'big' Rover is running much larger tires than the other 'stock' Rover. This would also make a difference in axle articulation as far as how high off the ground the axle is? I wonder how much difference between the two set-ups there would be if both trucks ran the same size tire?

I dont think there will be as much difference as you would think. A stock tire is around 28 in. mine are 37 in. 9 in difference. So the front tire will stay 4.5 inches closer to the ground and the rear will come off the ground 4.5 inches sooner. The big discos rear starts to lift at 36 inches I would ASSUME at 31 inches the same truck with 28s for tires would start to lift.

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by roverandom

I don't want to nit pick but I just noticed that the stocker also still has its anti-sway bars! But I suppose that is part of what makes it 'stock'. Never mind, brain fart.
Nice pic's.

We did this more as a goof not to make real science

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by Roverhound

Roll it Justin! I wanna see that stock truck on it's side!

I was going to but there is 2 nice doors on that side. It would be a wast. for this FL truck to get smashed for a joke.

[apbtpetey]

Originally Posted by fivespddisco

You are still going to get big flex from the rear. the front will not drop down as far as mine in a cross axle situation. the stock shocks are to short. Dose this answer your question?

Yeah it does, I was just trying to make sense out of what was saying in the past. I was mainly looking for a comparison between the amount of flex in a stock front compared to flex from a set up like yours in the front.

What is the difference in travel between your front shocks and stock shocks?

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by fivespddisco

I dont think there will be as much difference as you would think. A stock tire is around 28 in. mine are 37 in. 9 in difference. So the front tire will stay 4.5 inches closer to the ground and the rear will come off the ground 4.5 inches sooner. The big discos rear starts to lift at 36 inches I would ASSUME at 31 inches the same truck with 28s for tires would start to lift.

This was not really a serious answer, was it?

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by fivespddisco

We did this more as a goof not to make real science

So you weren't out to prove anything. So you suceeded.

You actually proved that your springs do move less than a stocker

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by apbtpetey

Yeah it does, I was just trying to make sense out of what was saying in the past. I was mainly looking for a comparison between the amount of flex in a stock front compared to flex from a set up like yours in the front.

What is the difference in travel between your front shocks and stock shocks?

I think stock is like 5 in mine are 12.

So if you took off my shocks and put stock ones on it would not flex more then stock. the shock will limit the travel A good suspension is a mix off all the parts.

I always try to get people to tell me what size tire they want to run. then build it from there.


you want a 33 ok then you need a 3in with all these parts lift and to do some trimming. you want 35s of 4 in lift with these parts and a lot of trimming

so on and so on.

[Buddy Lee]

Originally Posted by fivespddisco

I dont think there will be as much difference as you would think. A stock tire is around 28 in. mine are 37 in. 9 in difference. So the front tire will stay 4.5 inches closer to the ground and the rear will come off the ground 4.5 inches sooner. The big discos rear starts to lift at 36 inches I would ASSUME at 31 inches the same truck with 28s for tires would start to lift.

I think tire size makes even less of a difference then that. Because what you are measuring is how far the bottom of the front tire is off the ground relative to the bottom of the rear tire. The only thing that the larger tires do is raise the vehicle they don't actually effect the aspect of the front and rear axle in relationship to each other. So 37" or 29" really is irrelevant or at least a very minor consideration in testing articulation. Although given the same suspension on both vehicles with those two tire sets I would wager that the truck with the bigger tires would tip over first because of the higher center of gravity.

[fivespddisco]

Originally Posted by Buddy Lee

I would wager that the truck with the bigger tires would tip over first because of the higher center of gravity.

Dont forget the big disco has a WIDER stance. the stock wanted to tip at 3.5 foot i had to hold the ass end down. we could not get the 3.5 pic.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by fivespddisco

I think stock is like 5 in mine are 12.

Just a little out as usual. Stock is 8.6 inches of travel.
I will not ask what you have on yours as you have not been able to supply any specs on suspension. But, for example, even Procomp Plus 5 shocks only have an extra 1.8 inches of travel over standard.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by fivespddisco

the stock wanted to tip at 3.5 foot i had to hold the ass end down.

Do you think that the flat tyres may have contributed to the instability?