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Geobloke · 10-30-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

Do you think that the flat tyres may have contributed to the instability?

Probably not, if you are referring to the tyre at the right handside rear. If it were pumped up it would have been just as unstable if not worse. The flat rubber is probably helping keep that wheel stuck to the floor with its slightly greater surface area.

p76rangie · 10-30-2007, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Geobloke

Probably not, if you are referring to the tyre at the right handside rear. If it were pumped up it would have been just as unstable if not worse. The flat rubber is probably helping keep that wheel stuck to the floor with its slightly greater surface area.

It lowers the vehicle on that side. This then increases the angle that the vehicle is at, which brings it closer to its roll over point.

You should note that when on the trails and crossing side slopes, you should always make sure that at least the tyres on the low side have sufficient air in them to increase stability.

fivespddisco · 10-30-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

Just a little out as usual. Stock is 8.6 inches of travel.
I will not ask what you have on yours as you have not been able to supply any specs on suspension. But, for example, even Procomp Plus 5 shocks only have an extra 1.8 inches of travel over standard.

So you STOCK shocks are 8.6 in the front??

NO we do not give specs on our suspension. Equipe has been rip off enough in the past they dont need to make it easer for people.

fivespddisco · 10-30-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

Do you think that the flat tyres may have contributed to the instability?

STOP being a TROLL and go away.

p76rangie · 10-31-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fivespddisco

NO we do not give specs on our suspension. Equipe has been rip off enough in the past they dont need to make it easer for people.

You don't give them because you don't know them.
You are a person selling gear that you know nothing about, yet you attempt to make out to your customers that you do.
Every other spring manufacturer will give specs. There are no real secrets. If they wanted to copy them, they could just purchase a pair and work out the specs. Stop making up excusses for your complete lack of knowledge and obvious lack of interest in the products you sell.

p76rangie · 10-31-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fivespddisco

So you STOCK shocks are 8.6 in the front??

TRAVEL of standard shocks are 8.6 inches.
What shocks do you have again? That's right, you don't know.

fivespddisco · 10-31-2007, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

TRAVEL of standard shocks are 8.6 inches.
What shocks do you have again? That's right, you don't know.

I know what I have. Take a look at scorpion and tell me what that looks like to you.

ROVERNIT · 11-24-2007, 01:02 PM

Does your truck have ACE by any chance

fivespddisco · 11-24-2007, 03:26 PM

No It does not. It is a D1 with D2 lights. the D1 lights keep shorting out from all the water so we moved them up

ROVERNIT · 11-25-2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fivespddisco

No It does not. It is a D1 with D2 lights. the D1 lights keep shorting out from all the water so we moved them up

oh smart move

atvsmurf · 11-29-2007, 08:24 AM

I think this was an interesting post... starts out with some guy playing around to see how stock vs. equipped compare to one another, he then graciously decides to share it with us, then people try to tear his experiment apart piece by piece, most everything was attacked but the position of the moon, you know how that affects gravity with the tides and all... just goes to show, that no good deed goes unpunished. I could see the slams if he were saying here is my brand of lift equipment outdoing a rovertym or ome lift, come on and buy it....then you could start the nit-picking. but this is just a quickie comparison against stock... here is a thought, if you nit-pickers want a level playing field, then gather a little cash, or a lot, and send it to the o.p. let him install all new factory suspension components, (springs, bushings and the whole nine-yards) and tires on the stocker then we could get him to re-do the test in a more scientific manner, on a level concrete surface with the measuring devices like you would see rigged up on myth-busters and we will see how the two compare...just make sure you send enough cash to pay for the labor...

p76rangie · 11-29-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by atvsmurf

I think this was an interesting post... starts out with some guy playing around to see how stock vs. equipped compare to one another, he then graciously decides to share it with us, then people try to tear his experiment apart piece by piece, most everything was attacked but the position of the moon, you know how that affects gravity with the tides and all... just goes to show, that no good deed goes unpunished. I could see the slams if he were saying here is my brand of lift equipment outdoing a rovertym or ome lift, come on and buy it....then you could start the nit-picking. but this is just a quickie comparison against stock... here is a thought, if you nit-pickers want a level playing field, then gather a little cash, or a lot, and send it to the o.p. let him install all new factory suspension components, (springs, bushings and the whole nine-yards) and tires on the stocker then we could get him to re-do the test in a more scientific manner, on a level concrete surface with the measuring devices like you would see rigged up on myth-busters and we will see how the two compare...just make sure you send enough cash to pay for the labor...

Again, people commenting on things they know little about. Try finding the two other threads he had going at the time. It was not a simple experiment he attempted to share. But was part of a bigger discussion at the time. He hole point behind his posts was to sell his suspension gear.

jimfoo · 11-29-2007, 06:58 PM

I will have to say it's odd that someone selling suspension parts doesn't know the stock shock travel. I do also agree that deflated tires will allow a vehicle to roll easier. The reason being the uphill tire has almost no weight on it, so is about at the same height as a fully inflated one, while the deflated downhill tire will obviously lower the vehicle on that side.

atvsmurf · 11-29-2007, 08:54 PM

so are you competing with him to sell suspension parts? and to answer your question, no I didn't do research on him to see everything he had posted...that would waste a lot of time, and possibly make me a stalker...it does appear that you have been following him around inciting controversy, so are you going to start following me around to see if there are other posts that I have made, that you would think I know little about? I hope you aren't that petty...even if he is trying to promote his wares...free enterprise is alive and well up here in the states, so if you are against him, then the most effective thing you could do would be to repeat his experiment with another brand, to show him up...or just ignore him... g'day mate

p76rangie · 11-30-2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by atvsmurf

so are you going to start following me around to see if there are other posts that I have made, that you would think I know little about?

Don't flatter yourself.
I just have a strong dislike of people who offer advice and do not declare their vested interest in the view they are pushing.

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11-29-2007, 06:58 PM	#43 (permalink)
jimfoo jimfoo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 464 Gallery: 9	I will have to say it's odd that someone selling suspension parts doesn't know the stock shock travel. I do also agree that deflated tires will allow a vehicle to roll easier. The reason being the uphill tire has almost no weight on it, so is about at the same height as a fully inflated one, while the deflated downhill tire will obviously lower the vehicle on that side. __________________ Jim Hall “That man has no respect for his Rover and beats the hell out of it every opportunity he gets, taking the most difficult line over each and every obstacle.” Michael 1966 88" 1.9l VW TDI, GT1749V, IC

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ROVERNIT Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 64 Gallery: 0	Does your truck have ACE by any chance

11-29-2007, 08:24 AM	#41 (permalink)
atvsmurf Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: pikeville, ky Posts: 166 Gallery: 0	I think this was an interesting post... starts out with some guy playing around to see how stock vs. equipped compare to one another, he then graciously decides to share it with us, then people try to tear his experiment apart piece by piece, most everything was attacked but the position of the moon, you know how that affects gravity with the tides and all... just goes to show, that no good deed goes unpunished. I could see the slams if he were saying here is my brand of lift equipment outdoing a rovertym or ome lift, come on and buy it....then you could start the nit-picking. but this is just a quickie comparison against stock... here is a thought, if you nit-pickers want a level playing field, then gather a little cash, or a lot, and send it to the o.p. let him install all new factory suspension components, (springs, bushings and the whole nine-yards) and tires on the stocker then we could get him to re-do the test in a more scientific manner, on a level concrete surface with the measuring devices like you would see rigged up on myth-busters and we will see how the two compare...just make sure you send enough cash to pay for the labor...

11-29-2007, 08:54 PM	#44 (permalink)
atvsmurf Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: pikeville, ky Posts: 166 Gallery: 0	so are you competing with him to sell suspension parts? and to answer your question, no I didn't do research on him to see everything he had posted...that would waste a lot of time, and possibly make me a stalker...it does appear that you have been following him around inciting controversy, so are you going to start following me around to see if there are other posts that I have made, that you would think I know little about? I hope you aren't that petty...even if he is trying to promote his wares...free enterprise is alive and well up here in the states, so if you are against him, then the most effective thing you could do would be to repeat his experiment with another brand, to show him up...or just ignore him... g'day mate

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