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Old 05-05-2008, 08:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default P38 brake modulator failure '95 to mid '99

Hello gents,

Recently I had a vehicle bought to me with no brakes!!I removed the brake modulator and started to strip the unit down. What I found was quite scary. An internal component made of plastic had failed, this rendered the car with zero brakes. I have been told by LR and Wabco that no parts are available and the units are unserviceable. This is rubbish!!!!!I have a Range Rover Dianostic business equiped with faultmate MV system(thanks Hardy)and have engineered stainless steel components to replace the plastic parts. A new modulator is around $6000.00aus plus fitting and more than likely an ABS pump at $2500.00aus. I was quoted $9500.00aus by LR to complete the above.
As we all know many older P38's can now be purchased for 12 to $15000.00. Spending $10000.00aus to fix your brake problem would for most be out of the question.
I have now fixed 5 of these problems in the past 3 months, all had th exact same internal failure. If your pedal feels at all strange or you have had intermittent warning lights please do something about it. The 5 that I have fixed all by luck avoided an accident. I believe that age is the contributing factor not klm's. All the cars have been 95/96 HSE's with varied klm's.A second hand unit is only a short term fix as they also have the same plastic component up to mid 99 when all the BMW bosch changes happened.
If you would like to discuss this with me please e-mail me at rx007.car@bigpond.com.
This has been posted on other sites to allow owners to be aware of this fault and repair the unit before it fails.

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Russell Botha
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no offense but are you willing to guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that your parts will work and wont fail in the future.

you dont fuck with brakes,
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no offense but are you willing to guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that your parts will work and wont fail in the future.

you dont fuck with brakes,
I know that my repair is sound. This repair is not a modification it's simply removing a defective component and replacing with a part that will not fail in the same manor.

The abs/tc modulator in the late classics has s/s locating washers. Then the P38 came along with a similar system but plastic locating washers, these units ran for five years. Then the Bosch update happened around mid '99. The locating washers changed from plastic to s/s.

My kit simply repairs the older P38 modulators with components that I produce, similar in spec to what is found in the later modulators.

I have personally stripped 15 of these units that have been deemed faulty, and they have all failed the same way. Currently I have five HSE's on the road with the repair kit installed. The first was done about 8 months ago and all are working beautifully.
I know what your saying about brakes, but go tell the manufacturer about there liability of these cars with no brakes. Personally I have been called out three times where cars are stranded on the side of the road with no brakes. Luckily no accidents yet!!!!

Regards Russell.

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