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98RRover · 01-04-2007, 06:44 PM

Hey everyone,
I'm not sure if everyone has the same problem as me, but on my P38 the door pillars and headliner look like shit. It's probably my fault, or the previous owners for not taking care of it, but now I have finally decided to do something about it. Today I took out the headliner (not an easy task) along with all of the door pillars to redo them. While I have everything off is there anything i should check out? I already made sure their were no cracks in the rain gutters and checked the lights and wires to make sure nothing was damaged. I enclosed some pictures of the bare ceiling (the extra wires hanging down are for my overhead monitors) and also the ratty condition that the interior was in. I also included some pictures of the A and B pillars which i have already resueded, but need to trim. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know! I'll be sure to post pictures of the finished project once I get it done!

98RRover · 01-08-2007, 10:28 PM

Note to everyone... DO NOT TRY TO DO THIS YOURSELF!!! haha. This was so much harder than I thought it was going to be. I starting putting the pieces back together tonight and should finish tomorrow. I'll take some pics once Im done.

Life's Lemon · 01-09-2007, 05:08 AM

Haha, nice. I know what you mean thou. When I drive in the summer I like to leave all the windows open, and obviously this pulls the headliner down in about the same spot as yours is. And those pillars suck!! I was thinking about rhino coating them!
Nice work however, and goodluck getting it back togeather!

skippy3k · 01-09-2007, 03:15 PM

While you are in there, make sure your sunroof drains are clear.

What does the headliner "cardboard" look like? Do you think one could pull the fabric off, rub it down, then paint it if one wanted to?

mcnabj · 01-10-2007, 02:21 PM

I just removed the headliner and took pics of whats underneath. I think it would be hard to remove the foam and glue crap on the headliner and just paint it. Maybe a textured spraypaint would work??

skippy3k · 01-10-2007, 07:40 PM

Is it fiberglass, or some sort of cardboard?

mcnabj · 01-10-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3k

Is it fiberglass, or some sort of cardboard?

i,m not sure what it is. It feels like some kind of plastic material. Its not cardboard or fiberglass. I think i might be able to pressure wash that crap off. Will let you know how it goes.

Funrover · 01-10-2007, 09:04 PM

WOW!!! What a pain!!!

98RRover · 01-10-2007, 10:06 PM

wow mine didn't quite look like that. Maybe you got water on it? Meanwhile I still haven't finished mine, most of it is up, but I need to put the pillars in. It'll be done tomorrow though. As for the paint, I'm not sure if paint will work. Its a porous material so I would think there would be some problem. Maybe if you can cover it first or somehow seal it and than paint it????

Funrover · 01-10-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnabj

I just removed the headliner and took pics of whats underneath. I think it would be hard to remove the foam and glue crap on the headliner and just paint it. Maybe a textured spraypaint would work??

They make a headliner adheasive..I have bought at auro zone.... In my chevy what I did whas go to the local fabric store...find one I liked and just did that...My 2 cents!

skippy3k · 01-11-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Funrover

They make a headliner adheasive..I have bought at auro zone.... In my chevy what I did whas go to the local fabric store...find one I liked and just did that...My 2 cents!

It doesn't work. Oh, it works at first, of course, but after the first hot day and driving with the windows down, it will begin to sag again. Even if you use the high temp resistant adhesive. This is just a myth.

hermanpj · 01-19-2007, 03:27 PM

you have to scrape all the foam crud off otherwise as skippy3k points out it wont work. the headliner foam, not the glue, is what breaks down. so if you adhere a new headliner to the old foam, after time the weight of the fabric will just pull the foam apart again and it will sag.

mcnabj · 01-19-2007, 06:02 PM

I just pressure washed all that crap off. Now what the hell am I going to pain tit with??

hermanpj · 01-20-2007, 08:32 AM

is there a kind of textured / rubberized paint that wouldnt go on so thick as to be to heavy? that might be cool.

mcnabj · 01-21-2007, 08:07 PM

well i painted the headliner with some black rustoleum. It looks ok. I'm a cheap bastard.

01-04-2007, 06:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
98RRover Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 291 Gallery: 0	some new uphostery Hey everyone, I'm not sure if everyone has the same problem as me, but on my P38 the door pillars and headliner look like shit. It's probably my fault, or the previous owners for not taking care of it, but now I have finally decided to do something about it. Today I took out the headliner (not an easy task) along with all of the door pillars to redo them. While I have everything off is there anything i should check out? I already made sure their were no cracks in the rain gutters and checked the lights and wires to make sure nothing was damaged. I enclosed some pictures of the bare ceiling (the extra wires hanging down are for my overhead monitors) and also the ratty condition that the interior was in. I also included some pictures of the A and B pillars which i have already resueded, but need to trim. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know! I'll be sure to post pictures of the finished project once I get it done! Attached Thumbnails __________________ 98 4.6 HSE Customized to the season

01-08-2007, 10:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
98RRover Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 291 Gallery: 0	Note to everyone... DO NOT TRY TO DO THIS YOURSELF!!! haha. This was so much harder than I thought it was going to be. I starting putting the pieces back together tonight and should finish tomorrow. I'll take some pics once Im done. __________________ 98 4.6 HSE Customized to the season

01-09-2007, 05:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Life's Lemon Life's Lemon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 382 Gallery: 0	Haha, nice. I know what you mean thou. When I drive in the summer I like to leave all the windows open, and obviously this pulls the headliner down in about the same spot as yours is. And those pillars suck!! I was thinking about rhino coating them! Nice work however, and goodluck getting it back togeather! __________________ 1998 Range Rover P38 http://www.myspace.com/lifeslemon

01-10-2007, 02:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
mcnabj Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: va Posts: 44 Gallery: 0	I just removed the headliner and took pics of whats underneath. I think it would be hard to remove the foam and glue crap on the headliner and just paint it. Maybe a textured spraypaint would work?? Attached Thumbnails

01-10-2007, 10:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
98RRover Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 291 Gallery: 0	wow mine didn't quite look like that. Maybe you got water on it? Meanwhile I still haven't finished mine, most of it is up, but I need to put the pillars in. It'll be done tomorrow though. As for the paint, I'm not sure if paint will work. Its a porous material so I would think there would be some problem. Maybe if you can cover it first or somehow seal it and than paint it???? __________________ 98 4.6 HSE Customized to the season

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01-09-2007, 03:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
skippy3k Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 46 Gallery: 0	While you are in there, make sure your sunroof drains are clear. What does the headliner "cardboard" look like? Do you think one could pull the fabric off, rub it down, then paint it if one wanted to?

01-10-2007, 07:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
skippy3k Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 46 Gallery: 0	Is it fiberglass, or some sort of cardboard?

01-19-2007, 03:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
hermanpj Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Plano (Dallas) Posts: 362 Gallery: 4	you have to scrape all the foam crud off otherwise as skippy3k points out it wont work. the headliner foam, not the glue, is what breaks down. so if you adhere a new headliner to the old foam, after time the weight of the fabric will just pull the foam apart again and it will sag. __________________ Pat Herman

01-19-2007, 06:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
mcnabj Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: va Posts: 44 Gallery: 0	I just pressure washed all that crap off. Now what the hell am I going to pain tit with??

01-20-2007, 08:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
hermanpj Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Plano (Dallas) Posts: 362 Gallery: 4	is there a kind of textured / rubberized paint that wouldnt go on so thick as to be to heavy? that might be cool. __________________ Pat Herman

01-21-2007, 08:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
mcnabj Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: va Posts: 44 Gallery: 0	well i painted the headliner with some black rustoleum. It looks ok. I'm a cheap bastard. Attached Thumbnails

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