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Old 06-29-2009, 05:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't off road at all and my disco has been mostly for cruising around town with the family. Now that we can be sure the issue is within the rear diff, are there any how to guides in replacing or rebuilding the 3rd member/axel? Thanks again for all your feedback.
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The beauty of a third member is that there is no set up if you replace it as a unit.
Drop the drive shaft, remove your wheels, calipers and rotors.
Behind this is the hub assembly with the axle shaft held on with a stake nut.
The look for the 4 bolts holding the hub on on the rear. Pull the hub and axle shaft out. Do this on both sides.
Now you can unbolt the third member and replace it with the new one.
Really not a hard job but the diff is heavy.
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It could be a halfshaft. be sure to take the hubs/axles out all the way. The only extra thing you would have to do is remove the ABS sensors from the hubs.
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Great, all very good tips for my new project. I just emailed roverguy to see if he has any used diff units. I'll post my progress once I get the parts and maybe pictures on the steps for the next person that has to go through this. In the mean time, if anyone else has more tips or guides that they have made or followed then please send them over

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Before you go buying a used 3rd member, tear it down and make sure it is not just a broken axle.
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Great, all very good tips for my new project. I just emailed roverguy to see if he has any used diff units. I'll post my progress once I get the parts and maybe pictures on the steps for the next person that has to go through this. In the mean time, if anyone else has more tips or guides that they have made or followed then please send them over

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when you spin the drive shaft do you hear any noise in the diff or when you spin the tires do you hear noises in the axels? You should be able to gear what's broken... While you fix it, you should put some new bearings in and brake pads if you need them, and you should buy all new seals, it'll be a great time to fix all that too

Did one of your kids pull the e-brake???
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Pull the axles, you have to do that to replace the diff anyway. That will let you see what you need.
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My first suspect in this case (with the symptoms described) would be a broken axle shaft, although I have a feeling that there's much more to this story. "Accidentally" pulling the handbrake while driving on pavement will only bring you to a slow, gradual stop.... definitely won't break any drivetrain components.
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It's my understanding the ebrake grabs hold of the drive shaft so yes, it would effect the DT. Hope I'm right on this one.
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It's my understanding the ebrake grabs hold of the drive shaft so yes, it would effect the DT. Hope I'm right on this one.
That is right. The e-brake drum is on the rear output of the transfer case.
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It's my understanding the ebrake grabs hold of the drive shaft so yes, it would effect the DT. Hope I'm right on this one.

Ugh... The handbrake drum spins with the rear driveshaft, but you're missing my point. Have you ever used the handbrake while underway? It will bring you very gently (and slowly) to a stop. Try it, and you'll understand what I mean. Not the type of action that would cause drivetrain components to break. No sudden torque loads, and certainly less stress than engine braking. If you disagree, please explain how it would "effect the DT". If you cannot explain this, please don't post misleading messages based on uncertain information.
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Ugh... The handbrake drum spins with the rear driveshaft, but you're missing my point. Have you ever used the handbrake while underway? It will bring you very gently (and slowly) to a stop. Try it, and you'll understand what I mean. Not the type of action that would cause drivetrain components to break. No sudden torque loads, and certainly less stress than engine braking. If you disagree, please explain how it would "effect the DT". If you cannot explain this, please don't post misleading messages based on uncertain information.

Wrong, YOU implying that pulling the parking brake while in motion will "most likely" bring you to a slow stop with no damage is not true.

FYI: The transfer case/diffs are designed for both drive shafts to turn freely, not get yanked to a stop by the ebrake, just in case you didn't know...

And last, think about the name... TRANSFER case.
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Wrong, YOU implying that pulling the parking brake while in motion will "most likely" bring you to a slow stop with no damage is not true.

FYI: The transfer case/diffs are designed for both drive shafts to turn freely, not get yanked to a stop by the ebrake, just in case you didn't know...

And last, think about the name... TRANSFER case.



Thanks for the FYI. It's amazing how much partial/mis-information is spouted on these Land Rover forums. Not even worth arguing... You clearly have no factual knowledge or experience. You remind me of a bad saleseperson.
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Thanks for the FYI. It's amazing how much partial/mis-information is spouted on these Land Rover forums. Not even worth arguing... You clearly have no factual knowledge or experience. You remind me of a bad saleseperson.
FYI #2 I'm a great salesperson. The facts are with what happened... Point blank. The parking break got pulled while moving, something is broke. Are you telling me pulling the parking brake could not damage the diff or axel? Get real. Why don't you grab a video camera and test your theory? It might break or it might not but one thing's for sure, it's not designed to do that and the outcome could be bad.

Squirt, I'm not a professioanl by any means but the man said he pulled the PB came to a stop, tried to go and heard a clunking or grinding sound and wouldn't more forward. What's your theory?

Maybe I'm wrong, if I am I'll admit it. Hopefully others and Hackery will chime in and let us know.
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Have you grabbed your Video Camera yet? It's YouTube - Broadcast Yourself..

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