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Old 05-12-2009, 06:24 AM   #16 (permalink)
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They have been putting 350 chevs into Landrovers here for a long time. The biggest issue you are going to have with a D2 is the computers. If you get a computerised Chev motor, you also have issues with its computer. If it is a computerised Chev motor, make sure you get one out of a manual car as the computer will then not want to talk to the auto. Not sure what the answers are for the D2 computers.

As not by someone above, Marks Adaptors make a kit to mate them to the Landrover auto.

But you may find it easier to turbo a 4.0 or 4.6.
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They have been putting 350 chevs into Landrovers here for a long time. The biggest issue you are going to have with a D2 is the computers. If you get a computerised Chev motor, you also have issues with its computer. If it is a computerised Chev motor, make sure you get one out of a manual car as the computer will then not want to talk to the auto. Not sure what the answers are for the D2 computers.

As not by someone above, Marks Adaptors make a kit to mate them to the Landrover auto.

But you may find it easier to turbo a 4.0 or 4.6.
Ian, what the Fu** is a computerized motor? Is a short block a computerized motor? Are you talking about an LS1,LS5? Why the hell would you even subject yourself to that when you could pick up a standard 350 short block and work from there??? Now that I think about it, why would you subject yourself to this whole process anyway? A 350 would rip a Disco apart. You'd need a complete rebuild to accominsate this kind of horsepower and torque. You need to learn when to fold'em....
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They have been putting 350 chevs into Landrovers here for a long time. The biggest issue you are going to have with a D2 is the computers. If you get a computerised Chev motor, you also have issues with its computer. If it is a computerised Chev motor, make sure you get one out of a manual car as the computer will then not want to talk to the auto. Not sure what the answers are for the D2 computers.

As not by someone above, Marks Adaptors make a kit to mate them to the Landrover auto.

But you may find it easier to turbo a 4.0 or 4.6.
I saw an adapter for getting the 350 Chevy onto a LT230 transfer box but beyond that I am unsure to the process. The ECU's was also a main concern. My understanding is that there is one for the Engine and one for the tranny- Getting them to talk might be fun.
Do the guy's over there retain the LR gearbox? I want to swap from a Auto to a Manual anyway.

My 4.0 is knackered and would not warrant a turbo. I don't particularly want to replace it with another LR engine to then start tuning it
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My understanding is Ian is right. Such a conversion would be MUCH easier with a mechanical trans.

If I was to take this on, I woudl figure a way to trick the Dicso Computer into thinking the 350 is the 4.0
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My understanding is Ian is right. Such a conversion would be MUCH easier with a mechanical trans.

If I was to take this on, I woudl figure a way to trick the Dicso Computer into thinking the 350 is the 4.0
Sure, I agree. After you change to a 350 and the manual transmission you've got nothing but a glorified Chev 1500 truck with a Discovery body. Maybe it's just me but I don't see the point with a DII. Maybe a DI or a D90... Like this. It's SICK!

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The point is it costs far less and has more power than anything you could do to a 4L. I dont agree with it either, but thats never stopped anyone from putting 350's in just about any car (like the guy who I sold my mazda to put an LS1 in it).

The only way to fly is a standalone with any conversion. With the amount of time you save buy just buying the unit, instead of screwing around with factory computers, it pays for itself. You can also get aftermarket computers for the automatic - like the one ashcroft offers.
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Something like an NV4500 or 3500 MT tranny and Atlas T-Case with cut-down full-size Bronco/F100 (78-79) or 1-ton axles should do the trick. The tranny and T-case can be junk yard sourced, or bought from a place like Wild Horses. The axles from a junk yard. Going full size would allow extra tube on the left and right sides to allow for the pumpkin to be move to align with the T-case before being cut.

All of this is pretty "standard" in the Early Bronco and Jeep world. Since the LR and the Early Bronco share the same front suspension design--and the LR's rear is basically the same as the front--*in theory,* a fair amount of Early Bronco mods *could* be applied to a Land Rover. Heck, a lot of later model Jeep ideas could be as well--since whatever year Jeep went to coil front and rear suspension ('97?).

Creaking a Franken-rig like this out of a Land Rover would flip everyone's wig. Personally, I think finding a basket case DI or DII and doing this would be fun. But then my wife would shoot me--literally shoot me. Along with the basket case DI/DII, find a Chevy or Ford PU for the engine and CPU wiring. I'd vote Ford, but that's only because I know more about them--and the distributor is in the front, less likely to conflict with the firewall!

Overall, this would probably require seperating the DI/DII's body from the frame and creating new crossmembers and mounts for the drivetrain, then seeing where the body conflicts with the new drivetrain when you try to lower it. Also, some experimenting with the springs would be needed. It might be that something like Early Bronco spring mounts might need to be adapted. Or, go with coilovers.

A lot of little things... this wouldn't be a money/time saving conversion. It'd be a "hey, look at what I did" conversion. still, it's "do able" for the right kind of person--I think.
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Ian, what the Fu** is a computerized motor? Is a short block a computerized motor? Are you talking about an LS1,LS5? Why the hell would you even subject yourself to that when you could pick up a standard 350 short block and work from there??? Now that I think about it, why would you subject yourself to this whole process anyway? A 350 would rip a Disco apart. You'd need a complete rebuild to accominsate this kind of horsepower and torque. You need to learn when to fold'em....
WTF would you know. How many Landrover vehicles have you seen converted with a 350 chev across the various versions over the years. One I go our regularly has it going through the original series 3 landrover transfer case, has standard prop shafts, CVs, etc. He also runs 38 boggers.

I have seen the conversion also of defenders and range rovers.

Would I do it, NO, it is too much Hassle. i would look more at supercharging a Rover V8.
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Do the guy's over there retain the LR gearbox? I want to swap from a Auto to a Manual anyway.
I have seen then connected to ZF4, 5 speeds, 4 speeds, and other brands of gearboxes, like a Nissan.
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Back in 1998 I put a 502 rat motor with a T400 against a LR 230 transfer box into a 110 CSW Defender for a customer.Went very well - the brakes were "interesting" above 100mph,but it handled well.The axles were standard RR classic ones,we had no problems with it - except the owners wife sussed his fuel account !
Was good fun,shame we couldnt finish developing it,the brakes were the main thing,and the 3" stainless exhaust burning the carpets in the back.
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WTF would you know. How many Landrover vehicles have you seen converted with a 350 chev across the various versions over the years. One I go our regularly has it going through the original series 3 landrover transfer case, has standard prop shafts, CVs, etc. He also runs 38 boggers.

I have seen the conversion also of defenders and range rovers.

Would I do it, NO, it is too much Hassle. i would look more at supercharging a Rover V8.
No Ian, I haven't seen one Discovery with the conversion because it's a dumb fucking idea. We drive Land Rovers not chevy's. Leave it to you dumb Yanks to dump a bunch of $$ trying to make a good Discovery II even better. We're not talking about Rovers in general here, we're talking about Discovery II's. Read the first post dipshit.
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We're not talking about Rovers in general here, we're talking about Discovery II's. Read the first post dipshit.
Oh shit..... I forgot that the D2's had completely different motors to other Rover V8's. Your right, definitely would not be possible.
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Oh shit..... I forgot that the D2's had completely different motors to other Rover V8's. Your right, definitely would not be possible.
GREAAAAAT. Go stick a 350 with headers, a supercharger and upgraded CAM into your P38. Is that what they do 'down under'? So you're a Redneck Aussie?
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Oh shit..... I forgot that the D2's had completely different motors to other Rover V8's. Your right, definitely would not be possible.
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Good thing I make no claims to be a "proper" Land Rover owner cuz I like the idea of a drivetrain conversion in any rig... including the Land Rovers. Just cuz it came from the factory a certain way doesn't mean that this is always the best.

Now, for me, I have no plans to do a conversion on the DII. I'd probably choosen a more well worn path for this, a Toyota for example. Or putting a 350 in a mid-90's RX-7... that's be bitchin'. As for the grief over discussing the concept... I don't get it.
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