You're even cooler. Why don't both of the join the P76 fan club. All three of you deserve each other. Better yet go buy the good'ol 1985 1500 you've always wanted.
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There is so much FAIL in this post I don't even know where to begin.
Ah well, you know those diesels blowing out all that black smoke from the exhaust is just a dead give away that the owner has no idea what he's doing, right?
actually i am a diesel mechanic, the black smoke orginates from the amount of fuel being dumped into the cylinders. If i had no idea what i was doing i probably would not have a job. A chip completely remaps the engines injection cycles, compressions and numerous other things. I drive a land rover but my second truck is a duramax 2500 which is dynoed at 800 hp and 1200 lb ft. of torque. You should pick up a copy of next months Diesel Power magazine and read all about it. Diesel power is very interesting and efficient and can be made to be environmentally friendlier than a gas motor. Before pretending you can seperate "FAIL" from fact, you should do your reading.
actually i am a diesel mechanic, the black smoke orginates from the amount of fuel being dumped into the cylinders. If i had no idea what i was doing i probably would not have a job. A chip completely remaps the engines injection cycles, compressions and numerous other things. I drive a land rover but my second truck is a duramax 2500 which is dynoed at 800 hp and 1200 lb ft. of torque. You should pick up a copy of next months Diesel Power magazine and read all about it. Diesel power is very interesting and efficient and can be made to be environmentally friendlier than a gas motor. Before pretending you can seperate "FAIL" from fact, you should do your reading.
Good point. Don't forget talking to these guys is like playing cards with the brothers kids.
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1995 Nissan Pathfinder SE (Sold)
1999 Chevrolet Cavalier (permanent loaner)
actually i am a diesel mechanic, the black smoke orginates from the amount of fuel being dumped into the cylinders. If i had no idea what i was doing i probably would not have a job. A chip completely remaps the engines injection cycles, compressions and numerous other things. I drive a land rover but my second truck is a duramax 2500 which is dynoed at 800 hp and 1200 lb ft. of torque. You should pick up a copy of next months Diesel Power magazine and read all about it. Diesel power is very interesting and efficient and can be made to be environmentally friendlier than a gas motor. Before pretending you can seperate "FAIL" from fact, you should do your reading.
I rest my case....... FAIL. You have no idea what your talking about. Why? Because all you did was tell me that a 'chip' changes everything, which I already knew, and most others know as well.
You did not however, tell me why exactly it's a 'good' thing to be blowing all your money and horsepower out the tailpipe of the truck in the form of black smoke. You know why? Because it is isn't a good thing and if properly tuned it should not do this. If you think it should, your a failure.
Pick up a copy of Domestic Driver magazine, Pontiac Enthusiast, or High Performance Pontiac and read about why I know more about boosted applications in general than you.
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You're even cooler. Why don't both of the join the P76 fan club. All three of you deserve each other. Better yet go buy the good'ol 1985 1500 you've always wanted.
...... and you can blow me, Cavalier boy.
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Good point. Don't forget talking to these guys is like playing cards with the brothers kids.
You don't even know what a fucking ECU is.
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Ian, what the Fu** is a computerized motor? Is a short block a computerized motor? Are you talking about an LS1,LS5? Why the hell would you even subject yourself to that when you could pick up a standard 350 short block and work from there??? Now that I think about it, why would you subject yourself to this whole process anyway? A 350 would rip a Disco apart. You'd need a complete rebuild to accominsate this kind of horsepower and torque. You need to learn when to fold'em....
Why are you talking trash to me anyways? You know shit about engines, shit about 4x4s, and shit about anything mechanical.
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actually i am a diesel mechanic, the black smoke orginates from the amount of fuel being dumped into the cylinders. If i had no idea what i was doing i probably would not have a job. A chip completely remaps the engines injection cycles, compressions and numerous other things. I drive a land rover but my second truck is a duramax 2500 which is dynoed at 800 hp and 1200 lb ft. of torque. You should pick up a copy of next months Diesel Power magazine and read all about it. Diesel power is very interesting and efficient and can be made to be environmentally friendlier than a gas motor. Before pretending you can seperate "FAIL" from fact, you should do your reading.
X2 spot on. By the way, sounds like you have a nice duramax. Want to post a pic?
VWs and some BMWs for instance.
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It should make some smoke at full throttle under full load. The smoke is diesel burning without enough air (diesel likes extra air).
If you know anything about diesels, you know they don't have throttle bodies. It is completely open. Engine speed is controlled by the amount of fuel injected.
The smoke off the line is the full amount of fuel for full load at maximum speed without the extra air it would have at full speed.
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It should make some smoke at full throttle under full load. The smoke is diesel burning without enough air (diesel likes extra air).
If you know anything about diesels, you know they don't have throttle bodies. It is completely open. Engine speed is controlled by the amount of fuel injected.
The smoke off the line is the full amount of fuel for full load at maximum speed without the extra air it would have at full speed.
Ah, yeah. Should of stated better that I'm not talking about no smoke at all at any point in time. However people running around dumping so much black smoke out that it actually draws attention and never stops are complete and utter fucktards, along with the people who believe that is 'correct'.
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I've been wondering why it took 3 pages to start talking about diesels. Throwing in a high performance gasoline V8 into a truck with the aerodynamic qualities of a brick with a drag chute doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.
Besides the LR diesels available in Europe, what other diesels are a possible swap for the Disco II in the U.S.?
Yeah, these threads have a habit of getting off track... Bottom line is, it's his truck and he can do whatever he wants to it. A mild small block chevy and a 700R4 (non computer controlled trans.) would make a nice, reliable drivetrain in a Rover that has a blown motor. Even a throttle body injected 350 makes more power than any of the Rover V8s and would be far more reliable.
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A mild small block chevy and a 700R4 (non computer controlled trans.) would make a nice, reliable drivetrain in a Rover that has a blown motor.
Exactly. I was less than impressed to find out how common blown headgaskets are on LR motors. 350s and 302s just don't have this drama, typically. If someone found a good LR with a crap drivetrain, I think it's make for an interesting mod... but it would be more effort and more technically involved than a well-trodden path like a 350 into a Toyota.
As for diesels, I know fvck all about them. But I do know that they typically make kick as torque and that's something that heavy ass rigs can really use. And, they can be made to be very fuel efficent for their power output. Gee... that does sound like an aweful combo there, doesn't it?
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