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Old 05-14-2009, 08:07 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Not sure if this was directed towards me or the thread in general. But I'm all for it. I love innovation. I'm keeping my disco "pure." Unless my oil pump fails and my engine goes to the junkyard. Then I'm not quite sure.
It wasn't directed towards you. It was, however, directed at the thread in general.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:11 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Mudmonkey, as stated you can swap the engines. Fact is it would be a PITA to remap the ECU, swap the tranny, diffs and make it all come together. My Discovery is my daily driver so I'm not in that mindset. However you might be. If you've got the time and money go for it. I've helped install a 350 in a 78 z-car (in the Datsun Days) and have seen a friend swap a 302 5.0 in to a bronco II just for the hell of it.... Let me tell that was the damdest thing I've ever seen. So (Pete) yes I do know a thing or two about engines and I sure as hell know what an ECU is, now there're ECM's. Do what you want, just make sure you post a video when you're done.
And why would you remap the Rover ECU to run the GM motor? That would truly be a PITA. One would use the ECU from the swapped motor. And what's wrong with Hurst shifters?
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And why would you remap the Rover ECU to run the GM motor? That would truly be a PITA. One would use the ECU from the swapped motor. And what's wrong with Hurst shifters?
Hurst shifter read the post before.

To be honest I'm not sure if a boshe ECU was every programed for a 350, might be surprised what aftermarket programs you could find for that.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:48 PM   #64 (permalink)
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chevy powered z, noooo! and since you said datsun i assume you mean the 240 and 260's double noooo! if you want a chevy powered 35 year old car just buy a camero.
but hey, one of my old girlfriends dad had a corvette ls1 in a jaguar, i almost shit when he opened the hood. if he could do that anything is possible.
The beauty of a small block powered Z is light weight (2200 lbs) and lots of RELIABLE power. A small block Chevy with aluminum heads, intake, and water pump actually weigh less than the Nissan I6 and the weight is lower and farther back in the chassis, thus improving handling. My 240Z had a very hot 2.8L I6 and it couldn't keep up with my friends Z with a very mild 350. There is a company that sells conversion kits for Jags. The company is called JTR (Jags That Run). Pretty common.
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The beauty of a small block powered Z is light weight (2200 lbs) and lots of RELIABLE power. A small block Chevy with aluminum heads, intake, and water pump actually weigh less than the Nissan I6 and the weight is lower and farther back in the chassis, thus improving handling. My 240Z had a very hot 2.8L I6 and it couldn't keep up with my friends Z with a very mild 350. There is a company that sells conversion kits for Jags. The company is called JTR (Jags That Run). Pretty common.
i can see that with the z but still .. the 240's and the 260's were pretty hot, faster than the 280 and first gen 300.
as far as the jag go's it wasn't some old crap jag it was a 1999 xjr and this was back in 2000.
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Oh, so it was a new crap Jag.... no, honestly I like Jags. Probably because I've never owned one.
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Oh, so it was a new crap Jag.... no, honestly I like Jags. Probably because I've never owned one.
Their problems with electronics were probably worse than with Land Rovers
but I still love them and have a few.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:58 AM   #68 (permalink)
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You know... this reminds me of the V8 hate I see on "sport compact" websites. However, the reason the pushrod V8s, like the 350, have been around forever is because they work. The reason the 350 is one of the most common V8 swaps is because it works (and is cheap and available in the US).

Tell you what, if it were cheaper and easier to swap my engine/drivetrain than to maintain the OE gear... I'm on it. But, my DII was in fine mechanical shape overall. Fast forward to finding a solid body/broken drivetrain LR in a garage somewhere... I'll be thinking swap again.

For a mechically inclined person with their own work space it's starting to sound like a "simple" matter of seperating the body and frame, dropping out the drivetrain and fabbing up new crossmembers to support the new drivetrain. No a biggie for the right person and situation.

Example, my '68/'71 Bronco used to have a Dana 30 front axle, small bearing 9" rear axle, I-6 engine and 3-speed tranny. Now it's got a D44 front axle, large bearing rear axle, 351 Windsor V8, Dodge range box (double reduction) and 4-speed transmission. It's not a small project, but it's very doable.

Size wise, the DII and the Early Bronco are very similar... and I'm sure the right person could do this. The suspension mods are going to be very similar too as the designs are so similar.

But then I've made zero claims to being a Land Rover purist. Or a purist of any auto-nerd kind. Plus, it'd flip people out to have a 'Merican V8 in the English ride... and that'd be fun.
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You know... this reminds me of the V8 hate I see on "sport compact" websites. However, the reason the pushrod V8s, like the 350, have been around forever is because they work. The reason the 350 is one of the most common V8 swaps is because it works (and is cheap and available in the US).

Tell you what, if it were cheaper and easier to swap my engine/drivetrain than to maintain the OE gear... I'm on it. But, my DII was in fine mechanical shape overall. Fast forward to finding a solid body/broken drivetrain LR in a garage somewhere... I'll be thinking swap again.

For a mechically inclined person with their own work space it's starting to sound like a "simple" matter of seperating the body and frame, dropping out the drivetrain and fabbing up new crossmembers to support the new drivetrain. No a biggie for the right person and situation.

Example, my '68/'71 Bronco used to have a Dana 30 front axle, small bearing 9" rear axle, I-6 engine and 3-speed tranny. Now it's got a D44 front axle, large bearing rear axle, 351 Windsor V8, Dodge range box (double reduction) and 4-speed transmission. It's not a small project, but it's very doable.

Size wise, the DII and the Early Bronco are very similar... and I'm sure the right person could do this. The suspension mods are going to be very similar too as the designs are so similar.

But then I've made zero claims to being a Land Rover purist. Or a purist of any auto-nerd kind. Plus, it'd flip people out to have a 'Merican V8 in the English ride... and that'd be fun.
As for the suspension, that's going to be a whole other thread as I would like to take out the "land rover" stuff and go for something fairly stiff and adjustable but that's going to be a whole other thread. Other than that- sounds like the Bronco route is the way to go for the drive train
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The ability to buy a "modern" Early Bronco was a big seller for me when I crawled under the DII for the first time. Checking out Bronco-specific sites should have lots of info on available conversions. I'd also checking out a vendor such as WildHorses4x4.com as they either stock or can get all kinds of parts. If it's available through Advance Adapters, WH can probably special order it for you.
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Ford is the toughest when it comes to small trucks and drivetrain. But why stop there? 2 1/2 Ton Rockwells show up on ebay all the time. Would compliment a small block conversion very nicely.
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I have been realy thinking of dooing a 5.7 vortec with 700r and twin stick
atlas in my disco. started with my defender but i think the disco would be a
less risky venture .like most of you i love my goofy landrovers but they realy do kinda suck. the next step would have to be 60s front and rear.
not looking for a monster just a dependable expadition truck.
moab outpost in moab utah said they could do the motor and trans for
5k i realy think it would make the perfect truck. and they have put them in almost everything
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