Brake job this weekend - Land Rovers Only

CaptainRuss · 08-11-2006, 06:53 PM

Hey guys, I have a question. I bought the high performance brake kit with the kevlar pads for my 03 DII S from Atlantic British and was hoping to pop them in this weekend. I had read somewhere here that you needed an impact driver to get the big screw out from the rotors. Is an impact driver really necessary or can it be done with another tool?

This is my first time doing anything to my truck which I just got a couple of months ago and am excited to start some work on it but I am curious to know what other surpises await me for a relatively simple brake job. It is probably a good idea to change the brake fluid while I am at it, no? How tough is that and how much fluid do I need?

I thank you all in advance for whatever advice you have.

BIRD · 08-11-2006, 07:52 PM

When I changed my brakes, I had to drill the heads off two of the screws On the third screw I used a big straight slot screw driver to get it out. Of the 4 screws I only got one out with a Phillipp's screw driver. The important thing is to make sure you use a #4 Phillipp's screw driver.

CaptainRuss · 08-11-2006, 08:11 PM

Yeah, I was aware of the screw size. That is not a problem. I suppose I could use a screw extractor if the heads strip. Good idea, thanks for that.

Disco Mike · 08-12-2006, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BIRD

When I changed my brakes, I had to drill the heads off two of the screws On the third screw I used a big straight slot screw driver to get it out. Of the 4 screws I only got one out with a Phillipp's screw driver. The important thing is to make sure you use a #4 Phillipp's screw driver.

See what happens when you let a jet engine mechanic do a simple brake job, I am always amazed how our planes stay in the air the way they do. Just kidding Bird.
I would suggest yo buy an impact driver from Sears, hell you will find other uses for it down the road.
As for the brak fluid, I woul buy 2 qts. of brake fluid and really flush that puppy out. It is easy enough to do, the one man version would be do do a gravity bleed, making sure you keep plenty of fresh fluid in the reservor. The quicker way to do it would be to have someone pump the brakes while you open and close the old bleeder. Bif thing is to keep bleeding them untill you have really clear fluid coming out, starting with the r/r then the l/r then the r/f and l/f.
By the way, buy some sound deadening spray for the backs of the brake pads in order to minimize your chance of brake squeak.
If you have any more questions, shout.
Mike

CaptainRuss · 08-12-2006, 07:27 AM

Mike, that is great info, thanks. That is kind of the way I am leaning right now, that is, to just go buy an inexpensive cordless impact driver. Some are just cheap enough to be worth it for the amount that I will use it.

Disco Mike · 08-12-2006, 07:43 AM

I believ the hand held unit Sears has is under $30 and well worth it. Don't forget a can of brake cleaner to clean off the rotors.
Mike

BIRD · 08-12-2006, 08:13 PM

I was was not a jet engine mechanic Mike I was an airframe and hydraulic mechanic. As a airfram mecanic, we use all the tools in the tool box. Engine mechanicisc just uses the hammer. Then after they screw up every thing then they call an aircraft mechanic.

So what have you been up to Mike?

BlueLion · 08-13-2006, 06:17 AM

Your Local Aircraft Mechanic checking in. Has a cone head screwed up something. Just thought I would chime in . USAF Veteran, C141, C-5, C-130, A-10 Warthog of which was my favorite. The toughest thing was to do the tail bolt inspections on a C-141. Alot of guys would get a new guy up in them tight places after a night of loading up beans and a morning of eggs. Just gotta love a brake change on Fred.

Disco Mike · 08-13-2006, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIRD

I was was not a jet engine mechanic Mike I was an airframe and hydraulic mechanic. As a airfram mecanic, we use all the tools in the tool box. Engine mechanicisc just uses the hammer. Then after they screw up every thing then they call an aircraft mechanic.

So what have you been up to Mike?

I stand corrected, you are the guys that made the air planes flap their wings and things.
I am fine, Colorado is great, just threw a check engine light last night so guess where I am going to be today?
Take care,
Mike

BlueLion · 08-13-2006, 12:21 PM

Fuel cell, my last base before I got out down at Robins AFB, Ga. we had some civilians almost die in a cell. These, guys rarely followed T.O.'s because most were old mechanics and felt it slowed them down. Learned alot in the Service and it was nothing like seeing the C-5 up close and personal.

CaptainRuss · 08-13-2006, 04:17 PM

Guys, thanks again for all your help. Job complete and fairly uneventful. The rotor screws were a breeze. The hardest part was that on each of the front wheels I had one very frozen lug nut. They slowed down the whole job. Brakes work well and are far superior to what was on there.

08-11-2006, 06:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
CaptainRuss Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 220 Gallery: 0	Brake job this weekend Hey guys, I have a question. I bought the high performance brake kit with the kevlar pads for my 03 DII S from Atlantic British and was hoping to pop them in this weekend. I had read somewhere here that you needed an impact driver to get the big screw out from the rotors. Is an impact driver really necessary or can it be done with another tool? This is my first time doing anything to my truck which I just got a couple of months ago and am excited to start some work on it but I am curious to know what other surpises await me for a relatively simple brake job. It is probably a good idea to change the brake fluid while I am at it, no? How tough is that and how much fluid do I need? I thank you all in advance for whatever advice you have.

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08-11-2006, 07:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
BIRD Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Honolulu Hawaii Posts: 363 Gallery: 0	When I changed my brakes, I had to drill the heads off two of the screws On the third screw I used a big straight slot screw driver to get it out. Of the 4 screws I only got one out with a Phillipp's screw driver. The important thing is to make sure you use a #4 Phillipp's screw driver.

08-11-2006, 08:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
CaptainRuss Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 220 Gallery: 0	Yeah, I was aware of the screw size. That is not a problem. I suppose I could use a screw extractor if the heads strip. Good idea, thanks for that.

08-12-2006, 07:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
CaptainRuss Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 220 Gallery: 0	Mike, that is great info, thanks. That is kind of the way I am leaning right now, that is, to just go buy an inexpensive cordless impact driver. Some are just cheap enough to be worth it for the amount that I will use it.

08-12-2006, 07:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,506 Gallery: 0	I believ the hand held unit Sears has is under $30 and well worth it. Don't forget a can of brake cleaner to clean off the rotors. Mike

08-12-2006, 08:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
BIRD Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Honolulu Hawaii Posts: 363 Gallery: 0	I was was not a jet engine mechanic Mike I was an airframe and hydraulic mechanic. As a airfram mecanic, we use all the tools in the tool box. Engine mechanicisc just uses the hammer. Then after they screw up every thing then they call an aircraft mechanic. So what have you been up to Mike?

08-13-2006, 06:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
BlueLion Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 99 Gallery: 0	Your Local Aircraft Mechanic checking in. Has a cone head screwed up something. Just thought I would chime in . USAF Veteran, C141, C-5, C-130, A-10 Warthog of which was my favorite. The toughest thing was to do the tail bolt inspections on a C-141. Alot of guys would get a new guy up in them tight places after a night of loading up beans and a morning of eggs. Just gotta love a brake change on Fred.

08-13-2006, 12:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
BlueLion Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 99 Gallery: 0	Fuel cell, my last base before I got out down at Robins AFB, Ga. we had some civilians almost die in a cell. These, guys rarely followed T.O.'s because most were old mechanics and felt it slowed them down. Learned alot in the Service and it was nothing like seeing the C-5 up close and personal.

08-13-2006, 04:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
CaptainRuss Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 220 Gallery: 0	Guys, thanks again for all your help. Job complete and fairly uneventful. The rotor screws were a breeze. The hardest part was that on each of the front wheels I had one very frozen lug nut. They slowed down the whole job. Brakes work well and are far superior to what was on there.

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