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Old 10-28-2009, 09:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am looking to replace my MAF and came across this online:

Mass Air Flow Sensor - Auto Parts Warehouse Rover&V=1654+4294965176&Vh=2000 Land Rover

Has anyone used a non-OE version successfully? The price is right. It would save me $50+ over the best price I can find on the original Bosch unit. What do you think ...
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I am looking to replace my MAF and came across this online:

Mass Air Flow Sensor - Auto Parts Warehouse Rover&V=1654+4294965176&Vh=2000 Land Rover

Has anyone used a non-OE version successfully? The price is right. It would save me $50+ over the best price I can find on the original Bosch unit. What do you think ...
Sadly in this case you get what you pay for. $50 is not much of a savings compared to the headaches it might bring. This item needs to be BOSCH based on my MAFS experience and I am as cheap as they get.
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I have seen so many people that have tried to save money using non-Rover MAF's or Bosch generic MAF's waste more time and money. First, how do you know your MAF is bad, what, exact fault codes do you have?
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I have seen so many people that have tried to save money using non-Rover MAF's or Bosch generic MAF's waste more time and money.
I have to second DiscoMike on this. If the MAF is indeed bad, don't waste your time with the cheap non-oem ones. I've been through that struggle.
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I used this MAF. It's MADE IN CHINA.

I installed it on May 29th. On October 26th it failed.

However there was oil in the intake hose and I was told that is what caused it to fail. But it is possible the oil never got into the MAF and it failed on it's own. So I do not have a clear-cut answer. I find it hard to believe it would only last not even 5 months though.

They are however replacing it with a new one so we will see. I told them the MAF failed on it's own. It comes with a 5 year warrantly but they said it's only a one time deal. They are sending me a new MAF now.

I'm going to install it again. $300.00 for a new BOSCH MAF is not fair. They are just taking advantage.
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What was the oil from? Did you have a KN filter?
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What was the oil from? Did you have a KN filter?
No. I have a Puralator from Wal-Mart.

The oil was from the mechanic who filled it at least 1 inch past the "FULL" mark on the dipstick. That's the only answer I came up with. Unless it is coming from somewhere else. 99% sure it is from the overfilling though.
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I have seen so many people that have tried to save money using non-Rover MAF's or Bosch generic MAF's waste more time and money. First, how do you know your MAF is bad, what, exact fault codes do you have?
Mike - codes are P0150, P0174, P1174, P1590. Truck is 2000 model with 122K miles. MAF is original. I replaced all O2 sensors and plugs in July with Bosch units, which cleared the applicable codes for about a month. I am thinking a new MAF is in order along with some upgraded wires. What do you think ...
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I have been through a bunch Bosch units. I finally got sick of paying for the Bosch that would only last 6 months so I bought one from Napa Auto for $67. So far it has held up and it has a warranty. Not saying the Bosch isn't good but in my case it seems that the Napa unit is just as good. So far......

All the components to make them all come from china anyway.
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No. I have a Puralator from Wal-Mart.

The oil was from the mechanic who filled it at least 1 inch past the "FULL" mark on the dipstick. That's the only answer I came up with. Unless it is coming from somewhere else. 99% sure it is from the overfilling though.
That wouldn't have caused oil to get all the way back to your MAF, something else caused it.
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Mike - codes are P0150, P0174, P1174, P1590. Truck is 2000 model with 122K miles. MAF is original. I replaced all O2 sensors and plugs in July with Bosch units, which cleared the applicable codes for about a month. I am thinking a new MAF is in order along with some upgraded wires. What do you think ...
I would bet money that in your case, your MAF isn't causing your codes. Your 150 code is bring up the 2 lean codes and the 1590 is an ABS/Rough road code, need to fix your 3 Amigos.
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I have been through a bunch Bosch units. I finally got sick of paying for the Bosch that would only last 6 months so I bought one from Napa Auto for $67. So far it has held up and it has a warranty. Not saying the Bosch isn't good but in my case it seems that the Napa unit is just as good. So far......

All the components to make them all come from china anyway.
Aaron,
Where were you buying your Bosch MAF's from, did they refund your money and were they in a Rover box or a plain generic Bosch box? Bosch makes a number of other MAF's that are the same size and are sold as being for a Rover and they don't last.
If and when this happens again, get your money back from NAPA and call me I'll show you where to buy the correct one.
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I bought one from Napa Auto for $67. So far it has held up and it has a warranty. Not saying the Bosch isn't good but in my case it seems that the Napa unit is just as good. So far......

All the components to make them all come from china anyway.
$67.00? Can you please provide the link?
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I would bet money that in your case, your MAF isn't causing your codes. Your 150 code is bring up the 2 lean codes and the 1590 is an ABS/Rough road code, need to fix your 3 Amigos.
Mike - here is my saga ...

After my check engine light went on, the 150 code lead me to replace the passenger-side/front O2 sensor. I used a Walker sensor with the correct LR plug and tried some MAF spray cleaner at the same time. The codes went away temporarilly. When they came back I just drove it that way for awhile. I decided to do it right the second time around and replaced all 4 sensors with the correct Bosch units. I replaced the plugs with Bosch Platinum+2 at the same time, but did not touch the MAF. The truck ran good and codes went away for about a month. I have noticed the tail pipe has accumulated a fair amount of black residue recently around it's edge indicating something is off.

I suppose it is possible the new Bosch O2 sensor is throwing the 150 code, but I doubt it since it is the second sensor I have thrown at the problem. Based on this background, where would you go from here?

AND YES, I do have to get to work on those 3 amigos as well!
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Then it sounds like it is time to have someone with a good scanner check the signals from all 4 02's and see what is going on. You may have an issue that is taking that 02 out like a coolant leak, exhaust leak or bad 02 harness.
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