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Old 04-08-2008, 12:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Your welcome. Actually, not knowing exactly what the numbers mean is ok. Just know what numbers you need, and look at the data sheet.

The Syntec I would push you away from. It isnt even Synthetic, just a grade III/IV base if I recall from the top of my head.

What about truck stops? Walmart? I cant imagine Rotella is that tough to get up there... BUt, I may be wrong.
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Yeah, for some reason Walmart doesn't have it up here. I think Canadian Tire must have gotten the distributorship up here, and then whenever I go in, they don't seem to have the one I'm looking for. I think they only carry the very heavy one, like 20W50 or something. It's frustrating.

It's also frustrating that this is so difficult, because there are so many specs, and most of them aren't listed on the bottle. Most people tend to think that you just buy the correct viscosity, and then pick your favorite brand, or paying more automatically means it's better.

How do you think that Amsoil compares to the HD diesel oils? I was using it previously.

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/Se...CategoryID=289
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It's also frustrating that this is so difficult, because there are so many specs, and most of them aren't listed on the bottle. Most people tend to think that you just buy the correct viscosity, and then pick your favorite brand, or paying more automatically means it's better.


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Old 04-08-2008, 04:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hey Elemental, I know you know your oil. Should I run something different than 10w40 if im in South Florida.
I assume that it gets above 30C down in Florida, so 10W40 would be getting a bit marginal for the hot whether. Look at your owners manual, it will give you the correct ratings for your driving temperatures.

Flushing your motor is not a good idea in any circumstances. If there is nothing to flush, you have wasted your time. If there is something to flush, you have just moved chunks of gunk into parts of the motor that cannot take them. It will damage your motor over the long term.

You are already using a thin oil in a warm climate. Therefore, your tappet noise is unlikely to be related to the oil you are using.
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Hey Elemental, I know you know your oil.
Been proved time and time again that he doesn't. So act on any advice at your own risk.
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Been proved time and time again that he doesn't. So act on any advice at your own risk.


Yep. SAE XW-XX is the only thing you need to know.

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Yep. SAE XW-XX is the only thing you need to know.

Simpleton.
Hey Chris - I think he just TROLLS around looking to bicker, but then again you enjoy an good bicker every now and then, but usually one with the ability to process info.
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Yep. SAE XW-XX is the only thing you need to know.

Simpleton.
Found your 10w40 with a shear factor greater than 150 yet. You have also never got back to me on which oil gets thicker as it gets hotter. How about the oil that you keep on mentioning that will make it that your motor never wears out.
You just don't want to learn or understand anything and just try to divert your complete narrow focus on oil by name calling.

You might want to explain why you recommend the same oil to someone that lives in sub-zero environments and those that live in Florida. You might want to explain how a 10W40 is better than a 15W60 or a 20W70 in a climate that never gets below freezing and can get to over 100F.

You just have no understanding of oil and believe that one size fits all.
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Hey Chris - I think he just TROLLS around looking to bicker, but then again you enjoy an good bicker every now and then, but usually one with the ability to process info.
Read the past threads where I proved virtually every point he raised about oil to be incorrect.
Why he keeps on popping up in another thread spouting the same old garbage, I will warn people about his claims. Whether they choose to act on these warnings is up to them.
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You dont want to learn... All you want to do is prove your dick is bigger then mine.

The way, in simpleton speak, of how a 5-30 can be thicker then a 10-30 is this..

The window for SAE to call a 5-30 is huge.... In fact, the top end of SAE spec for 5-30 overlaps the SAE spec for 10-30...Depending on brand.

Lets say brand X 5-30 is at the Top end of thickness for a 5-30

And Brand Y 10-30 is at the bottom of the spec for 10-30..

The 5-30 WILL be thicker.
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Read the past threads where I proved virtually every point he raised about oil to be incorrect.
Why he keeps on popping up in another thread spouting the same old garbage, I will warn people about his claims. Whether they choose to act on these warnings is up to them.
You should run a class for techs then.
I make pretty darn good money doing it.
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You should run a class for techs then.
I make pretty darn good money doing it.
So you keep on trying to tell people. Yet your knowledge states that you either do not do it or people attending your classes should go somewhere else.
You keep on stating that you are the expert. It would appear that you have convinced yourself of this.

I am not getting into this debate again. If people want to evaluate your real knowledge, they just need to read the last thread where you were shot down.
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Yeah...I teach wrong info! WTF!

You are a total Blowhard moron, You really are.
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You dont want to learn... All you want to do is prove your dick is bigger then mine.

The way, in simpleton speak, of how a 5-30 can be thicker then a 10-30 is this..

The window for SAE to call a 5-30 is huge.... In fact, the top end of SAE spec for 5-30 overlaps the SAE spec for 10-30...Depending on brand.

Lets say brand X 5-30 is at the Top end of thickness for a 5-30

And Brand Y 10-30 is at the bottom of the spec for 10-30..

The 5-30 WILL be thicker.
Did I state anything about your 5w30 claim, but now that you have brought it up, you have never been able to provide an example of this within a specific range of oil. That is, oils of a similar price range or produced by companies with similar quality reputations. I have never suggested putting cheap crap oil into any motor, no matter what the grading. Get into the real world rather than just some theory you read somewhere. 10W30 is a pretty low grade oil, so I am not sure why anyone would be using it anyway.
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I've gotta say, after all that reading I still have no clue what oil to run in my D2. I think I'll just stick with the good 'ol Pennzoil 10w30. Hell, it's a Buick!
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