Engine Flush

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by Elemental

Yeah...I teach wrong info! WTF!

You are a total Blowhard moron, You really are.

You keep on making these stupid statements and never deal with the facts. You keep on quoting your theories based on your intepretation of SAE specs, yet you can NEVER provide any real world examples to back up your claims.
If you are a teacher, you are reasonably typical in being 20 years behind reality.

[Elemental]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

Did I state anything about your 5w30 claim, but now that you have brought it up, you have never been able to provide an example of this within a specific range of oil. That is, oils of a similar price range or produced by companies with similar quality reputations. I have never suggested putting cheap crap oil into any motor, no matter what the grading. Get into the real world rather than just some theory you read somewhere. 10W30 is a pretty low grade oil, so I am not sure why anyone would be using it anyway.

Look, I've given you as much info as I am willing to do for free. If you want more, fly up here, pay the price of admission and attend a class.

[brooksa]

I'm with brian4d, after reading the back and forth, which oil needs to be used?

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by brian4d

I've gotta say, after all that reading I still have no clue what oil to run in my D2. I think I'll just stick with the good 'ol Pennzoil 10w30. Hell, it's a Buick!

In a Buick V8 you would only need to run a 10W oil if you drive in conditions that could get down to -10C. You should probably be more concerned with the upper figure. If you don't drive in conditions above 90F, you should probably run a 40. If you stress the motor through towing, off road, etc and live in areas that get above 90F, you are probably looking for something around the 50.
This is all covered in your owners manual.
Better brands of oils have wider viscosity ranges these days, so you can get 10W50's, 15W60s, and 20w70's. These give you the best of both worlds. And to make Elemental happy, as they have a large range, they have a high viscosity index.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by Elemental

Look, I've given you as much info as I am willing to do for free. If you want more, fly up here, pay the price of admission and attend a class.

See everyone, he can never produce the goods. Just dodges the questions that will prove the quality of his knowledge.

[Elemental]

Originally Posted by brooksa

I'm with brian4d, after reading the back and forth, which oil needs to be used?

I would run 15-40 Rotella Year round. Best Choice for most conditions.

[slangel]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

So you keep on trying to tell people. Yet your knowledge states that you either do not do it or people attending your classes should go somewhere else.
You keep on stating that you are the expert. It would appear that you have convinced yourself of this.

I am not getting into this debate again. If people want to evaluate your real knowledge, they just need to read the last thread where you were shot down.

Ummm so he does for a living. I KNOW Chris , have been to his home, he has fiddled with my rover, and I will say the first person I ask a question when unsure is him. Yes he and I have had huge battles BUT when it comes to taking care of my rover and getting the best advice possible, it WILL always be a phone call to him or Will Tillery, always.

[brian4d]

Let the truth be known:

The second half of this post was not beneficial to any members, nothing was resolved. I could have learned more about oil from Hugo Chávez, and I don’t even speak Spanish! I’ll start a new thread…….

---Revised----

Everyone is posting at once, thanks for the input. The hottest it gets here is 100 and the coldest in the 20's. I think I'll stick with 10w30.

[slangel]

Originally Posted by brian4d

Let the truth be known:

The second half of this post was not beneficial to any members, nothing was resolved. I could have learned more about oil from Hugo Chávez, and I don’t even speak Spanish! I’ll start a new thread…….

You could learn more about oil by doing a search also.

[p76rangie]

Originally Posted by brian4d

Let the truth be known:

The second half of this post was not beneficial to any members, nothing was resolved. I could have learned more about oil from Hugo Chávez, and I don’t even speak Spanish! I’ll start a new thread…….

I am not sue what you wanted to know. I thought it was what oil to use. The answer to this question was that it depends on the climate you live in.
Pick an oil that meets you cold driving requirements,, that is the xW figure and then go for as high an upper figure you can get while maintaining the xW figure. The better oils and synthetics will generally offer a broader variance between the two figures than the cheaper/older oils. I would not recommend a 15W30 from the simple fact that it has such a narrow range and is therefore and old style oil, or a cheap oil. You can do a lot better than 15w30 and in the scheme of things, oil is cheap protection. For example the oil I use is a 15w60 and it is not synthetic.

[Elemental]

Originally Posted by slangel

Ummm so he does for a living. I KNOW Chris , have been to his home, he has fiddled with my rover, and I will say the first person I ask a question when unsure is him. Yes he and I have had huge battles BUT when it comes to taking care of my rover and getting the best advice possible, it WILL always be a phone call to him or Will Tillery, always.

She had to club me like a baby seal to quit sniffing her seats too.

And, she got to witness my mad Karaoke skillz!

[R_Lefebvre]

P76, do you have oil temperature vs. ambient temp data to back up your theory that the only thing that matters is viscosity vs. air temp? Because it seems like your simple way of looking at things, that's all that matters in your mind. So if you're so convinced by it, it must be for good reason right?

Do you know for a fact that when the ambient temps are hotter, the engine oil is also hotter and thus a heavier oil is required despite the fact that the engine is cooled to a set point by a thermostatically controlled radiator, which indirectly controls the oil temp?

If you rely on the owners manual as a bible, then why do you use oils outside of their recommended range?

[slangel]

Originally Posted by Elemental

She had to club me like a baby seal to quit sniffing her seats too.

And, she got to witness my mad Karaoke skillz!

Ahhh yes I did in that funny dive bar.....

To be fair your friend help me club you!

[KDamericano]

Oh snap! Another oil battle!


I'm think I'm going to embrace a whole new philosophy on this one -- I'm going to deny the existence of motor oil...



Who's ready for lunch?....

[slangel]

Originally Posted by KDamericano

Oh snap! Another oil battle!


I'm think I'm going to embrace a whole new philosophy on this one -- I'm going to deny the existence of motor oil...



Who's ready for lunch?....

Eating it. Shall we battle over WHAT to eat?