I got stuck - Land Rovers Only

fiach · 03-23-2008, 04:10 PM

Idiotically i went off roading by myself without any equipment in a stock discovery. when i got stuck in some mud, the only wheels that would spin, were the two that were in the mud. I had two perfectly fine wheels on gravel, but they werent spinning. The thing I dont get is why the 4 wheel drive didn't power the only wheels with traction? I thought the whole purpose of 4 wheel drive on a vehicle was to provide power to wheels with traction, when other wheels don't have traction. Am I missing something here?

PeteRice · 03-23-2008, 04:35 PM

You have a CDL? What year is your truck? If your CDL isn't engaged then all the power is going to be transfered to your tires that are spinning.

If it makes you feel better I got stuck in 2 feet of hard packed snow and my tires dug in. By myself, no shovel...three hours later of digging with a scrapper and a tire iron and I was out!

stolenheron · 03-23-2008, 05:32 PM

lol that sucks. you need to engage your CDL to power all of them...if you have one. 2004d2's have them stock

KevinNY · 03-23-2008, 05:39 PM

Engaging CDL only splits the power front to back. I bet you had one side on mud and one on gravel? ETC should have gotten you out of that. 4WD is only truly 4WD when you have front and rear lockers.

XtremeMarine · 03-23-2008, 06:06 PM

Yeah, if the ETC was operating properly, you should have had no problem getting out of the above described situation. No CDL needed, with how you explained it. I have never gotten close to stuck when one side was on hard pack. Heck, with proper brake modulation to keep the etc locked up, if one wheel has traction, you can pull out of most stuff if you've got good M/T's and aired down.

Disco Mike · 03-23-2008, 07:57 PM

You have to know how to drive with the CDL and or ETC, it isn't a sure fire thing if you are just out trying to power thru the mud, you need to let the system allow you to crawl out of the mud.
Mike

Bamaboy36695 · 03-23-2008, 08:07 PM

Thats happened to me a number of times. All i did to get unstuck was to turn off the engine and whenever you turn it back on you gun it and all your tires will spin.

stolenheron · 03-23-2008, 08:12 PM

you don't want to do that though when the engine is in water itself. but i guess that will work for shallow shit.

fiach · 03-23-2008, 09:18 PM

well i have an 03 no CDL
two wheels on one side were in mud about 4 inches deep. the other side on the gravel.
i couldnt believe i got stuck and i had to ask some random guy with an s10 to pull me out.

stolenheron · 03-23-2008, 09:22 PM

4 inchs of mud???? thats it?

fiach · 03-23-2008, 09:28 PM

i know i was so let down
but i had no idea what i was doing
and i was in those damn HP's

Alak · 03-23-2008, 11:36 PM

I've experienced similar retardedness with no CDL.

However, the key to the ETC/Traction Control is that you have to keep your foot into it at all times. Not alot, just enough. I accually have footage I took awhile back of me trying to cross some shallow ruts. The purpose of the excercise was to see if the ETC could work it out. You can visually see the computer working it out.

Disco Mike · 03-24-2008, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamaboy36695

Thats happened to me a number of times. All i did to get unstuck was to turn off the engine and whenever you turn it back on you gun it and all your tires will spin.

Bad suggestion cause there is nothing different when turning off the engine and the ETC will not do much for you.
Mike

Disco Mike · 03-24-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiach

well i have an 03 no CDL
two wheels on one side were in mud about 4 inches deep. the other side on the gravel.
i couldnt believe i got stuck and i had to ask some random guy with an s10 to pull me out.

So what are you running for tires????????????????
Bet that's the problem, the 03 had the first really major improvement when it comes to the ETC.
MIKE

fiach · 03-24-2008, 09:10 AM

goodyear wrangler HP's...
the guy who rescued me had Bfg A/T's

i need better tires

03-23-2008, 04:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
fiach Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 48 Gallery: 0	I got stuck Idiotically i went off roading by myself without any equipment in a stock discovery. when i got stuck in some mud, the only wheels that would spin, were the two that were in the mud. I had two perfectly fine wheels on gravel, but they werent spinning. The thing I dont get is why the 4 wheel drive didn't power the only wheels with traction? I thought the whole purpose of 4 wheel drive on a vehicle was to provide power to wheels with traction, when other wheels don't have traction. Am I missing something here?

03-23-2008, 04:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
PeteRice Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 75 Gallery: 0	You have a CDL? What year is your truck? If your CDL isn't engaged then all the power is going to be transfered to your tires that are spinning. If it makes you feel better I got stuck in 2 feet of hard packed snow and my tires dug in. By myself, no shovel...three hours later of digging with a scrapper and a tire iron and I was out! __________________ 2000 Land Rover Disco II My Disco's a bush truck. Wtf to I care about scratches?

03-23-2008, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
stolenheron 2004 Discovery II driver Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Myers, Florida Posts: 1,575 Gallery: 6	lol that sucks. you need to engage your CDL to power all of them...if you have one. 2004d2's have them stock __________________ 2004 Discovery II SE7 - My Ride 2006 LR3 SE - Dad's Ride

03-23-2008, 05:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
KevinNY Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Guilderland, NY Posts: 791 Gallery: 0	Engaging CDL only splits the power front to back. I bet you had one side on mud and one on gravel? ETC should have gotten you out of that. 4WD is only truly 4WD when you have front and rear lockers. __________________ "The Goat",1973 Series III coil conversion, Daihatsu 2.8 Td, power steering, dual ARBs Etc. '91 RRC, bone stock

03-23-2008, 06:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
XtremeMarine Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,590 Gallery: 0	Yeah, if the ETC was operating properly, you should have had no problem getting out of the above described situation. No CDL needed, with how you explained it. I have never gotten close to stuck when one side was on hard pack. Heck, with proper brake modulation to keep the etc locked up, if one wheel has traction, you can pull out of most stuff if you've got good M/T's and aired down. __________________ "In certain places, at certain hours, gazing at the sea is dangerous. It is what looking at a woman sometimes is." - Victor Hugo Originally Posted by Elemental Some guys play hard to get, I play hard to want.

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03-23-2008, 07:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,771 Gallery: 0	You have to know how to drive with the CDL and or ETC, it isn't a sure fire thing if you are just out trying to power thru the mud, you need to let the system allow you to crawl out of the mud. Mike

03-23-2008, 08:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bamaboy36695 "PLH" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 26 Gallery: 0	Thats happened to me a number of times. All i did to get unstuck was to turn off the engine and whenever you turn it back on you gun it and all your tires will spin. __________________ "You can never be old and wise if you were never young and dumb"

03-23-2008, 08:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
stolenheron 2004 Discovery II driver Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Myers, Florida Posts: 1,575 Gallery: 6	you don't want to do that though when the engine is in water itself. but i guess that will work for shallow shit. __________________ 2004 Discovery II SE7 - My Ride 2006 LR3 SE - Dad's Ride

03-23-2008, 09:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
fiach Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 48 Gallery: 0	well i have an 03 no CDL two wheels on one side were in mud about 4 inches deep. the other side on the gravel. i couldnt believe i got stuck and i had to ask some random guy with an s10 to pull me out.

03-23-2008, 09:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
stolenheron 2004 Discovery II driver Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Myers, Florida Posts: 1,575 Gallery: 6	4 inchs of mud???? thats it? __________________ 2004 Discovery II SE7 - My Ride 2006 LR3 SE - Dad's Ride

03-23-2008, 09:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
fiach Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 48 Gallery: 0	i know i was so let down but i had no idea what i was doing and i was in those damn HP's

03-23-2008, 11:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Alak 2002 Discovery II SE Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 356 Gallery: 0	I've experienced similar retardedness with no CDL. However, the key to the ETC/Traction Control is that you have to keep your foot into it at all times. Not alot, just enough. I accually have footage I took awhile back of me trying to cross some shallow ruts. The purpose of the excercise was to see if the ETC could work it out. You can visually see the computer working it out.

03-24-2008, 09:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
fiach Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 48 Gallery: 0	goodyear wrangler HP's... the guy who rescued me had Bfg A/T's i need better tires

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