LR lowered on one side to bump stops!!! - Land Rovers Only

Frosty_Power · 12-21-2005, 08:14 PM

Hi everyone,

I was hoping to get some answers here. My wife's '00 Disco II has been running great for awhile. I noticed that some mornings we come out to the vehicle and the drivers rear side is lowered or dropped down to the bump stops. We would then start the car and notice that the suspension levelling kicks in and puts air in the suspension and raises the drivers rear side. This happened a few times in the past 2 months. Now, the thing is it stays like that for the past 3 days and drives with the one end down to the bump stops and it seems to look like the passenger front is jacked up a bit(maybe). The one side does not seem to want to go up anymore. Anyone have any suggestions on what to check without just rushing to the stealerships??? Thanks in advance,

Frosty_Power
'00 Disco II 110k KM's

Silver Streak · 12-21-2005, 08:24 PM

Sounds like the air spring is blown (that's most common).
I'd convert it to coil springs in the rear and be done with it- otherwise headache and $$$$.

Muddy Oval · 12-21-2005, 09:00 PM

If it is the air bag- stick a new one in there (they're improved over the originals now) and go back to normal. The SLS suspension is awesome... a coil conversion only makes sense if you plan to lift it or pound it senseless.
Used bags can be had cheap too.

Silver Streak · 12-21-2005, 10:11 PM

I agree. Replace the bag and baby it. And STAY away from the middle of no where, because that's when it'll crap out agian .

Funrover · 12-21-2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Streak

I agree. Replace the bag and baby it. And STAY away from the middle of no where, because that's when it'll crap out agian .

Seems to be how it works.......On my parents Rangie the air bags went at the worst times!!!

Disco Mike · 12-22-2005, 08:32 AM

Get the bags replaced in pairs and do it real soon, don't drive it with one side down, your wife could get hurt and you will also burn out the SLS air pump which is very expensive.
Here is a great company that sells aftermarket bags with a lifetime guarantee.
http://www.arnottindustries.com/
Good luck,
Mike J.

Muddy Oval · 12-22-2005, 12:31 PM

The Rangie suspension and SLS are not the same. SLS is not prone to the common failures of the older Rangie systems. All the urban legend of SLS stranding people is rubbish. If you plan to wheel it hard, swap to coils because you have to anyway to get the height, but for a street-bound Disco the SLS is superior.

Disco Mike · 12-22-2005, 01:33 PM

Frosty,
Don't switch over to springs, the SLS is a good system and the older bags could develop a leak. I currently have a slow leak in my 99 with 75K of rough wheeling, they held up welltill now.
Check out that web site I sent you, I think it may be the best deal out there at a good price, nearly half of Rovers with a lifetime warranty. The replacement can be done in your driveway in less then an hour.
Mike J.

Frosty_Power · 12-26-2005, 10:57 AM

Thank you guys very much. I'll search the forum for thoughts on both the springs and the air bag. I'll check out that site too and see if I can do this replacement myself. Thanks for all your help and hope to get my wife's Disco on the road again,
Frosty

Muddy Oval · 12-27-2005, 09:34 AM

replacing a bag takes less time that jacking up the truck and pulling off the wheel. It's no big deal. Avoid cheap offbrand replacement bags- you're better off with a used REAL one than a cheap offbrand replacement.

Disco Mike · 12-27-2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddy Oval

replacing a bag takes less time that jacking up the truck and pulling off the wheel. It's no big deal. Avoid cheap offbrand replacement bags- you're better off with a used REAL one than a cheap offbrand replacement.

I think you are wrong on your replacement theory using old bags. They are made with old stle rubber material, tried out and stretched. There is no way to predict how long it might last.
I would rather buy a new tech air bag with a lifetime warranty at half the price of Rovers bags.
That though is just my option,
Take care,
Mike J.

Muddy Oval · 12-27-2005, 01:35 PM

Kinda like the lifetime warranties on cheap light bulbs- sure, they'll give you new ones over and over, but the hassle osn't worth it. Buy an OEM one or don't bother. I've seen aftermarket bags and they are junk.

Disco Mike · 12-27-2005, 05:01 PM

So we dissagree on this one, but having worked as a service writer and manager for along time, I have often found after market can be better and this is one of those areas.
Have a good New years,
Mike J.

Carlos · 12-27-2005, 06:15 PM

Frosty:
Her's to some advertising, as I always tend to do.
Go to www.roversland.com

They always are parting-out Land Rovers and have on-line inventory of their store.If I'm not mistaken I think I saw a couple used original air bags there recently.Just my 2 cents.

Thanks,
Carlos

Muddy Oval · 12-28-2005, 07:49 AM

It's possible you're getting them from somewhere else- the ones I've seen were from some third world country... I'm sure more companies either HAVE or will come out with them.

12-21-2005, 08:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Frosty_Power Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Gallery: 0	LR lowered on one side to bump stops!!! Hi everyone, I was hoping to get some answers here. My wife's '00 Disco II has been running great for awhile. I noticed that some mornings we come out to the vehicle and the drivers rear side is lowered or dropped down to the bump stops. We would then start the car and notice that the suspension levelling kicks in and puts air in the suspension and raises the drivers rear side. This happened a few times in the past 2 months. Now, the thing is it stays like that for the past 3 days and drives with the one end down to the bump stops and it seems to look like the passenger front is jacked up a bit(maybe). The one side does not seem to want to go up anymore. Anyone have any suggestions on what to check without just rushing to the stealerships??? Thanks in advance, Frosty_Power '00 Disco II 110k KM's

12-21-2005, 09:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	If it is the air bag- stick a new one in there (they're improved over the originals now) and go back to normal. The SLS suspension is awesome... a coil conversion only makes sense if you plan to lift it or pound it senseless. Used bags can be had cheap too. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

12-22-2005, 12:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	The Rangie suspension and SLS are not the same. SLS is not prone to the common failures of the older Rangie systems. All the urban legend of SLS stranding people is rubbish. If you plan to wheel it hard, swap to coils because you have to anyway to get the height, but for a street-bound Disco the SLS is superior. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

12-27-2005, 09:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	replacing a bag takes less time that jacking up the truck and pulling off the wheel. It's no big deal. Avoid cheap offbrand replacement bags- you're better off with a used REAL one than a cheap offbrand replacement. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

12-27-2005, 01:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	Kinda like the lifetime warranties on cheap light bulbs- sure, they'll give you new ones over and over, but the hassle osn't worth it. Buy an OEM one or don't bother. I've seen aftermarket bags and they are junk. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

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12-21-2005, 08:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Silver Streak PPR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: colorado springs Posts: 93 Gallery: 0	Sounds like the air spring is blown (that's most common). I'd convert it to coil springs in the rear and be done with it- otherwise headache and $$$$.

12-21-2005, 10:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Silver Streak PPR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: colorado springs Posts: 93 Gallery: 0	I agree. Replace the bag and baby it. And STAY away from the middle of no where, because that's when it'll crap out agian .

12-22-2005, 08:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	Get the bags replaced in pairs and do it real soon, don't drive it with one side down, your wife could get hurt and you will also burn out the SLS air pump which is very expensive. Here is a great company that sells aftermarket bags with a lifetime guarantee. http://www.arnottindustries.com/ Good luck, Mike J.

12-22-2005, 01:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	Frosty, Don't switch over to springs, the SLS is a good system and the older bags could develop a leak. I currently have a slow leak in my 99 with 75K of rough wheeling, they held up welltill now. Check out that web site I sent you, I think it may be the best deal out there at a good price, nearly half of Rovers with a lifetime warranty. The replacement can be done in your driveway in less then an hour. Mike J.

12-26-2005, 10:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
Frosty_Power Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Gallery: 0	Thank you guys very much. I'll search the forum for thoughts on both the springs and the air bag. I'll check out that site too and see if I can do this replacement myself. Thanks for all your help and hope to get my wife's Disco on the road again, Frosty

12-27-2005, 05:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	So we dissagree on this one, but having worked as a service writer and manager for along time, I have often found after market can be better and this is one of those areas. Have a good New years, Mike J.

12-27-2005, 06:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
Carlos Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Durham, NC U.S.A. Posts: 517 Gallery: 0	Frosty: Her's to some advertising, as I always tend to do. Go to www.roversland.com They always are parting-out Land Rovers and have on-line inventory of their store.If I'm not mistaken I think I saw a couple used original air bags there recently.Just my 2 cents. Thanks, Carlos

12-28-2005, 07:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	It's possible you're getting them from somewhere else- the ones I've seen were from some third world country... I'm sure more companies either HAVE or will come out with them. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

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