New to board and need help

[stb616]

As I said- I'm new to this board. I own a 2000 Disco and have had it for about 3yrs. LOVE IT(loved ).

Now the sad part, I was rear-ended by an f150 doing about 40-45mph. My disco seemed to hold up well, but just isn't the same. Can anyone give any insite about the tolorances for alignment on a disco II or their experiences with one post accident. ANY HELP??? PLEASE!?

I am really having a hard time with the insurance company on this. I'm trying to make sure I'm not being overly picky, but I am so pissed about this thing being off and I'm wondering if it should have been totaled. I'm also afraid about what other problems I won't find until later ect. Below is just a start of of the noticable (post "repaired") problems-

Everything rattles more.

My seat frame was replaced but moves from the base on accel and stopping.

My driver door pops when I open it.

I can visually see that my front driver tire is about a 1/4inch closer to the front bumper than the one on the pass side is.

The rear door rubs on the bumper, which doesn't seem to be on right and is loose. This has already been re-fixed once and now is rubbing again.

My center console has a gap on the driver side and rubs the pas side of the dash where they meet and makes an awful squeak.

When I was hit the impact caused the motor/trans/radiator mounts to break and now the radiator schroud is in the same overall unaligned manner as the rear door, bumper, dash/console ect. ( pas side is where it should be and driver side hangs over about 1/4 inch.)

I can see that the driver side body mounts are bent and the bolt is no longer centered in the mount.


Again, any help at all would be great or any other things I should look into closer.

THANKS very much in advance.

[Rovin4life]

so who did the work, did a Land Rover Bodyshop do it or did you farm it out to someone with no experience what soever?

Secondly the only thing you can adjust is toe and steering wheel.

The door probably has either a bad hinge or the idiot that did it did it wrong. Seems they loosened up.

The Center console could just need to be adjusted.

The tranny mounts could be from the accident and will likely need replacing.

If you are not happy with the job being done you do have a right to take it to a dealer and get it repaired correctly there.

[roverX]

Wow, sounds like the car was totalled....was the frame bent at all? I recommend being a squeaky wheel with the insurance company and demand the items get fixed by a Land Rover dealership. That way they use OEM parts and so forth. If you are still having trouble with the insurance company, get an attorney.

[ish]

Originally Posted by roverX

Wow, sounds like the car was totalled....was the frame bent at all? I recommend being a squeaky wheel with the insurance company and demand the items get fixed by a Land Rover dealership. That way they use OEM parts and so forth. If you are still having trouble with the insurance company, get an attorney.

I agree.........demand a quality repair! Have it fixed properly and sell it!

[keptin]

Welcome to the forums by the way.


Do you have any pictures from the accident? 40 MPH sounds pretty extreme from an F-150...

x2 on the last 2 posts......get it dealer fixed for sure.....other shops (non-rover independent shops) seem to fcuk up everything on our vehicles. Then determine if it's worth keeping or rather sell it.

[stb616]

I have no idea about the frame- I would say that would have to be since there is so much that doesn't line up right post accident.

I don't have any photos of the F150, and the damage on disco is amazing how little it appeared to have. They must hit frame to frame because the F150 was pretty wasted and looked like it was almost on the ground in front and was in no way drivable.

I reset the fuel switch, picked up some parts off the road and drove about a mile home to get my things out. Then the pain set it and I went to the med center.

Anyone who I talk with about this accident, I tell them the same thing- F'n thing is built like tank and they should have used it for a LR ad on saftey.


Anyway, thanks for your input and I look forward to any additonal comments.

[stb616]

Here are some photos.

Diver side Tire

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6/DSC00507.jpg

Pas Side tire

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6/DSC00508.jpg


Remember, the Radiator mounts and Schroud were all replaced

Pas. Side

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6/DSC00484.jpg

Driver Side

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6/DSC00485.jpg


Body mount- only the driver side mounts are bent like this- pas side look ok.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...6/DSC00512.jpg

[keptin]

Damn....that wheel/bumper is off a good inch. Where did you have it repaired at? If they arent a dealer, are they at least a land rover independent shop?

[FlyWheel]

I dont know within what State you are located. However, depending on the statues (time essence), you may be able to letigate where the body shop is concerned. I certainly would have a chat with my insurance company regarding the current safety of the vehicle at the very least...that may get them to send out an adjuster to look it over again.
With the faults you've listed, It sure looks as if you have grounds to take this further..at least where the body shop is concerned.
Raise a little hell.....get someone's attention.
It sounds like shoddy work.

[Disco Mike]

It is your truck, you have the right to take it wherever you want and it sounds like you need a second option. Let your adjuster know what your concerns are, in writing, and take it to another shop before you sign off on all the paper work.
Mike

[stb616]

Thanks for all your input. I need some specific help/input on these problems.

I was able to get my rover to another shop and the Ins Co. is willing to pay for the needed repairs, however, like I feared there is some minor frame damage which is being claimed that it can be fixed- I'm waiting for a call back form Land Rover North America on the specifics of whats recomended on a frame repair. If anyone has any facts or stats about a Disco frame being pulled it would be helpful.

What I'm also really in need of is some input or thoughts on this sort of accident. I'm told the term for what happened is secondary inertial damage. Meaning everything on the truck took quite a jolt as the inertia energy traveled through it. I'm concerned about hidden damage or damage that hasn't shown its ugly head yet. With the frame being slightly rippled and the broken mounts mentioned above, is there anything else that would be wise to look into that might be developing some problems due to the accident?

I'm not looking to make anything up but because of the incompetance of the inital repairs I'm concerned about what else was missed and I'm concerned about the fact that I drove for almost 2 months with bad mounts before it was properly diagnosed.

Again, ANY input on this would great even areas to look into further which could be affected by this sort of accident.

Thanks again and sorry about the long posts

[keptin]

I would double check on every engine mount....would be the heaviest mass that would have had to move. I cant think of anything specific after that.....to tell you the truth....I would sell it or make it a trail rig after what it has gone through.....

[stb616]

Originally Posted by keptin

I would double check on every engine mount....would be the heaviest mass that would have had to move. I cant think of anything specific after that.....to tell you the truth....I would sell it or make it a trail rig after what it has gone through.....

Is there any damage that could have been done the driveline itself, since all the mounts where broken or bent? Thats sort of what I'm worried about is any interal or mechanical damage?

Thanks for the post

[Rovin4life]

if anything took the brunt it would have been the tranny or the engine. If both are fine then no the driveline wouldnt have been affected. Unless the axle itself was tweaked then yes but if it wasnt then its good to go. Also too if the axle was tweaked it would dog track.

[DevynsDad]

Couple of questions:

Who is your insurance carrier?

Who is the other guy's inurance carrier?

Does your state allow for diminshed value to be included in insurance settlements? If so, the other insurer must give you a check for the amount you have lost in resale value for your truck. If a 2000 Disco where you live goes for $14,000 but a 2000 Disco with frame repair and paint work goes for $9,000, the other carrier owes you $5,000 above what it costs to repair your truck.

If the other carrier has already paid for the half-assed repair to your truck, they are going to want to total it before they pay for any additional repairs. You DO NOT have to let them do that. If they try, your carrier needs to represent you in the back and forth legal slap-fight that will ensue.

Okay, that was the insurance industry weenie in me talking. Now for the "what I would do" advice: Hit the other guy's carrier with estimates from the best three shops that you can find. Have everything checked out, from the rear bumper to the radiator mounts to the frame. Present them with the three repair quotes (including paintwork), the diminshed value estimate (go to a reputable used car dealer in your area and ask him to type up an offer on your truck after explaining the situation) and the Kelley Blue Book "for sale by owner" price. Tell them they can either pay the bill to get it fixed and the diminshed value or they can just cut you a check for the middle repair estimate plus the diminished value. Then go to the used car dealer and sell them your truck, take the money from the sale and the check from the insurance company, and go by another Disco.