Wheel arch height / suspension ? - Land Rovers Only

UK 4X4 · 07-05-2006, 09:22 AM

Having just bought a 200 Disco i have a question in regards to vehicle height,
ie the previous owner said it had OME suspension......

I thought all OME coils were yellow ? as mine are black.

In the rear he said they were the heavy duty ones....yes they are hard and the rear bumber aligns with my wrangler which has a 4" lift and 33" tyres.

So when I measure ground to lower edge of the top of the wheel arch.

in the rear I have 35 1/2"
in the front i have 33 1/2"

Yes it has a winch and ARB etc so i'd expect a droop but is not 2" a bit much ?

rmuller · 07-05-2006, 09:49 AM

Congrats on the new purchase... how about some pictures of it? If its HD all around, it shouldn't have the 2" of droop in the front.. you can level it out with a spacer, but you may want to consider new springs.

Disco Mike · 07-05-2006, 10:12 AM

I am confused by your post.
You say you have a 35 1/2" height at your wheel well and you are 2"s low in the front, you cant be.
I have a 36 1/2" height at the wheel wells running 265/75/16 tires and I am level.
Mike

UK 4X4 · 07-05-2006, 10:13 AM

I don't have a full side piccy to show, but I have these on my work machine, but you can still see its nose down.

The rear slams when going over bumps as its usually empty, the front feels fine...just 2" lower

UK 4X4 · 07-05-2006, 10:20 AM

OK Disco Mike,, mine looks like yours in the second pic,
and when i measure
ground to wheel arch on the rear and then again on the front, the front is two inchs lower, if this is normal then fine.

Take your pic, put it in powerpoint and run a straight line from top of rear arch and you'l see the front looks lower on yours too.

Its my first disco, but normally the top of the wheeel archs gives a good reference point to see if the vehicle is sitting straight

Disco Mike · 07-05-2006, 11:31 AM

I went back and looked, the one picture I had partially raised the SLS, so yes, I was taller in the back, actually with the SLS I can raise the bac end by nearly 3"s.
Back to yours, on the front, I would suggest you arder a set of 751 OME springs, that will bring you up even. As for the noise in the rear, sounds like your shocks are too short and are poping going up. Do you currently have OME shocks, YELLOW, all the way around?
Mike

Muddy Oval · 07-05-2006, 11:37 AM

Measuring from the ground to the wheel arch doesn't tell much- the brand and type of tyre and how it is inflated will change measurements. Measure from the centre of the hub/wheel/hubcap to the arch. Stock for a DII is about 19" rear and slightly higher in front. A level Disco won't measure the same front and rear, as the rear wheel arch is LOWER on the body. Use the body line and door handles as a judge more than the gap between the tyre and wheel arches.

UK 4X4 · 07-05-2006, 02:10 PM

OK found the specs on the UK Landrover site....and a nice line side view.....

so according to that when i scale the dwg mines about 3 " low on the front....ie in the pictures the body lines are parrallel to the ground

I'll have to do a good side view when it stops raining here.....5 days so far....

Maybe he recieved wrong parts or only upgraded the rear, either way I can't identify the springs.....

Mine looks like the second white picture....and mine has no levelling system

Muddy Oval · 07-05-2006, 03:42 PM

lots of people put the wrong springs in the wrong ends. All the time, people install the fronts in back and the rears in front. I don't know why, they just do... It's possible that is what happened, or it might have HD rears and standard fronts- see that all the time too.

UK 4X4 · 07-06-2006, 09:29 AM

I spoke to the original owner and he says that they were all OME heavy duty.....so is there any way that I can identify wether they have been installed incorrectly ie fronts in the rear..

Coil count markings or otherwise ? or do I just have to do a swap and see....

he had some one else fit them...

07-05-2006, 09:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
UK 4X4 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston TX Posts: 6 Gallery: 0	Wheel arch height / suspension ? Having just bought a 200 Disco i have a question in regards to vehicle height, ie the previous owner said it had OME suspension...... I thought all OME coils were yellow ? as mine are black. In the rear he said they were the heavy duty ones....yes they are hard and the rear bumber aligns with my wrangler which has a 4" lift and 33" tyres. So when I measure ground to lower edge of the top of the wheel arch. in the rear I have 35 1/2" in the front i have 33 1/2" Yes it has a winch and ARB etc so i'd expect a droop but is not 2" a bit much ?

07-05-2006, 09:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
rmuller Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,511 Gallery: 0	Congrats on the new purchase... how about some pictures of it? If its HD all around, it shouldn't have the 2" of droop in the front.. you can level it out with a spacer, but you may want to consider new springs. __________________ Ryan :: Off-Road/Accessories Moderator :: Gallery 2001 Discovery II \| 2006 LR3 HSE7 \| 1994 Defender 90 #416 (Gone)

07-05-2006, 10:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 6,069 Gallery: 0	I am confused by your post. You say you have a 35 1/2" height at your wheel well and you are 2"s low in the front, you cant be. I have a 36 1/2" height at the wheel wells running 265/75/16 tires and I am level. Mike Attached Thumbnails

07-05-2006, 11:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	Measuring from the ground to the wheel arch doesn't tell much- the brand and type of tyre and how it is inflated will change measurements. Measure from the centre of the hub/wheel/hubcap to the arch. Stock for a DII is about 19" rear and slightly higher in front. A level Disco won't measure the same front and rear, as the rear wheel arch is LOWER on the body. Use the body line and door handles as a judge more than the gap between the tyre and wheel arches. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

07-05-2006, 03:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	lots of people put the wrong springs in the wrong ends. All the time, people install the fronts in back and the rears in front. I don't know why, they just do... It's possible that is what happened, or it might have HD rears and standard fronts- see that all the time too. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

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07-05-2006, 10:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
UK 4X4 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston TX Posts: 6 Gallery: 0	I don't have a full side piccy to show, but I have these on my work machine, but you can still see its nose down. The rear slams when going over bumps as its usually empty, the front feels fine...just 2" lower

07-05-2006, 10:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
UK 4X4 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston TX Posts: 6 Gallery: 0	OK Disco Mike,, mine looks like yours in the second pic, and when i measure ground to wheel arch on the rear and then again on the front, the front is two inchs lower, if this is normal then fine. Take your pic, put it in powerpoint and run a straight line from top of rear arch and you'l see the front looks lower on yours too. Its my first disco, but normally the top of the wheeel archs gives a good reference point to see if the vehicle is sitting straight

07-05-2006, 11:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 6,069 Gallery: 0	I went back and looked, the one picture I had partially raised the SLS, so yes, I was taller in the back, actually with the SLS I can raise the bac end by nearly 3"s. Back to yours, on the front, I would suggest you arder a set of 751 OME springs, that will bring you up even. As for the noise in the rear, sounds like your shocks are too short and are poping going up. Do you currently have OME shocks, YELLOW, all the way around? Mike

07-05-2006, 02:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
UK 4X4 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston TX Posts: 6 Gallery: 0	OK found the specs on the UK Landrover site....and a nice line side view..... so according to that when i scale the dwg mines about 3 " low on the front....ie in the pictures the body lines are parrallel to the ground I'll have to do a good side view when it stops raining here.....5 days so far.... Maybe he recieved wrong parts or only upgraded the rear, either way I can't identify the springs..... Mine looks like the second white picture....and mine has no levelling system

07-06-2006, 09:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
UK 4X4 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Houston TX Posts: 6 Gallery: 0	I spoke to the original owner and he says that they were all OME heavy duty.....so is there any way that I can identify wether they have been installed incorrectly ie fronts in the rear.. Coil count markings or otherwise ? or do I just have to do a swap and see.... he had some one else fit them...

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