Need uncommon wheel spacers - Land Rovers Only

Kaliman · 02-16-2006, 09:17 PM

Hello everyone!!

I was changing original 19" wheels on a LR3 for Range Rover's original 20", pretty cool ones.

I've thought that it would be just OK, cause the nut holes match perfectly.

I've presented them on the vehicle, and they fitted OK, but when I give turns to the wheel, I can see the caliper touches it, just a scratch, but enough to concern about it, so I need to separate the rim. (Front wheels only).

The questioned part of the rim, has an angle that only changes after you separate the wheel about 5mm, I've already measured it.

Anyway, I've bought and installed 6mm good quality wheel spacers and made a test driving.

Around 80km/h, it starts shaking, BIG TIME!!

Back to the shop, I take the wheel out, think a little bit, and I figure out what happened:
The center of the rotor has this 6mm thick section, that fits to the rim very firmly, and centers it, preventing unconvenient "radial shaking".
After analyzing the nuts, that have not cone shapped ends, I can see that the correct fitting of the wheels, depends on this little section, so when I add the spacer, the wheel got unlocked, and uncentered, so it shakes like hell.

Is there a product that could solve this problem? I just need a 5mm separation.

Don't want to grind the caliper for ovious safety reasons.
Don't want to grind the rims cause they're still owned by someone else.

Thanx for any help.

Good luck.

Rovin4life · 02-18-2006, 03:57 PM

LR3 and RR use two different style hub and bearing setup. Thats why it rubs.

They wont work, You might be able to do one for the RRS but I doubt that. If I remember they use the same hub.

Also too you need original lugnuts to make it work. thats right all twenty lugnuts.

Muddy Oval · 02-18-2006, 04:26 PM

You could have a hubcentric adapter made- it'll take a decent machine shop and some time... then put on the correct nuts too.

Kaliman · 02-19-2006, 01:06 PM

The new 20" rims comes from RRS.
I've already ordered special made adaptors, there's enough space in the center of the hub to attach a hub extention, using the axel's nut, already designed it with the engineer, will use stainless steel.

Wish me luck.

Thanx 4 the help, your replies have been very useful.

Kaliman · 02-24-2006, 10:48 PM

Hello again!!

I got specialmade stainless steel hub extentions and AL spacers. Everything was seem to be nice, we where very careful with design, measurement, and machining. $$$

But it didn't worked

It still shaking a little bit at 120kph.
I'll see if I can improve something else.
Already remeasured, balanced wheels, cleaned surfaces, checked for loosen parts. It just keeps shaking.
I'll try to shot some pics' in order to show you, so you can reply about it.
See you.

Rovin4life · 02-25-2006, 04:19 PM

If it keeps shaking then dont put them on.

its obvious your spacers were either designed wrong or not even right.

I think if I were you I would stick with the original. IT will give you alot less problems.

Ferrarislave · 02-25-2006, 11:43 PM

20" belong on no Land Rover, espacially on a Disco. If you want 20" wheels get a Cayenne, not a LR.

02-16-2006, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kaliman Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 22 Gallery: 0	Need uncommon wheel spacers Hello everyone!! I was changing original 19" wheels on a LR3 for Range Rover's original 20", pretty cool ones. I've thought that it would be just OK, cause the nut holes match perfectly. I've presented them on the vehicle, and they fitted OK, but when I give turns to the wheel, I can see the caliper touches it, just a scratch, but enough to concern about it, so I need to separate the rim. (Front wheels only). The questioned part of the rim, has an angle that only changes after you separate the wheel about 5mm, I've already measured it. Anyway, I've bought and installed 6mm good quality wheel spacers and made a test driving. Around 80km/h, it starts shaking, BIG TIME!! Back to the shop, I take the wheel out, think a little bit, and I figure out what happened: The center of the rotor has this 6mm thick section, that fits to the rim very firmly, and centers it, preventing unconvenient "radial shaking". After analyzing the nuts, that have not cone shapped ends, I can see that the correct fitting of the wheels, depends on this little section, so when I add the spacer, the wheel got unlocked, and uncentered, so it shakes like hell. Is there a product that could solve this problem? I just need a 5mm separation. Don't want to grind the caliper for ovious safety reasons. Don't want to grind the rims cause they're still owned by someone else. Thanx for any help. Good luck.

02-18-2006, 04:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	You could have a hubcentric adapter made- it'll take a decent machine shop and some time... then put on the correct nuts too. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

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02-18-2006, 03:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rovin4life Former NAS LR TECH, Current AUS LR TECH Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DOWN UNDER Posts: 1,884 Gallery: 0	LR3 and RR use two different style hub and bearing setup. Thats why it rubs. They wont work, You might be able to do one for the RRS but I doubt that. If I remember they use the same hub. Also too you need original lugnuts to make it work. thats right all twenty lugnuts.

02-19-2006, 01:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kaliman Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 22 Gallery: 0	The new 20" rims comes from RRS. I've already ordered special made adaptors, there's enough space in the center of the hub to attach a hub extention, using the axel's nut, already designed it with the engineer, will use stainless steel. Wish me luck. Thanx 4 the help, your replies have been very useful.

02-24-2006, 10:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kaliman Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 22 Gallery: 0	Hello again!! I got specialmade stainless steel hub extentions and AL spacers. Everything was seem to be nice, we where very careful with design, measurement, and machining. $$$ But it didn't worked It still shaking a little bit at 120kph. I'll see if I can improve something else. Already remeasured, balanced wheels, cleaned surfaces, checked for loosen parts. It just keeps shaking. I'll try to shot some pics' in order to show you, so you can reply about it. See you.

02-25-2006, 04:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rovin4life Former NAS LR TECH, Current AUS LR TECH Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DOWN UNDER Posts: 1,884 Gallery: 0	If it keeps shaking then dont put them on. its obvious your spacers were either designed wrong or not even right. I think if I were you I would stick with the original. IT will give you alot less problems.

02-25-2006, 11:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ferrarislave Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 46 Gallery: 0	20" belong on no Land Rover, espacially on a Disco. If you want 20" wheels get a Cayenne, not a LR.

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