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Old 08-27-2007, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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okay well i just picked up my D1 a few days ago and now that i THINK i have fixed the issues it has its time to move on to other things...... new tires

well right now it has 2 different pairs of tires 2 are in almost new condition and matching the other 2 are in id say decent condition and the spare is the oem tire unused and still in good contion. i figure that its a good time as any to replace them so i can at least get some trade in for them and id like to get some new mud terrains.

now from what i have read on the D1's i can run (biggest size) 245/75/16s with only a small 45degree cut in the rear fender and a little bit of a hack up in the front bumper on a stock suspension/ ride height disco (if anyone can confirm id greatly appreciate it). i plan on getting the ever so popular 2-3" lift eventually but, would rather get tires before the lift because the lift with the stock size rubber will look stupid.

im really looking at the bfgoodrich mud terrain t/a but, the firestone destination's and goodyear wrangler mt/r's are pretty as well. what are your guy's advice and other opinions?
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Old 08-27-2007, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If It were me. I would probably do the lift first. A 2 inch lift will look fine on stock tires and with an upgraded suspension like (rovertym,Old Man, Big Blues) the truck will handle better. Also if you just got the tires first there won't be much flex (downtravel) to get out of stock suspension if you ever go off road.

as for Tires I love BFG's and swear by them.
also with the lift you might want to condiser the 265's that what I have and it just looks better with a 2-3 inch lift.

here is my Discovery a year ago with stock tires not to bad just imagine a 1.5 inch height increase.

the second is my disco Now with a 3 inch lift and 32's
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so is the first pic with stock tires and stock suspension?
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sure is buddy.

I chnaged them but still

the first is with factory suspension
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okay now im confused since you changed the pic.

now the first pic looking like you have a lift but, on stock tires. (maybe its an illusion)

does anyone have a pic of a D1 with stock size tires and a small (2"-3") lift?

when you are talking about 265's, are you refering to 265/75/16s (basically a 32")?
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I have to agree, you are putting the cart in front of the horse. You should do the lift first for 2 reasons, one you won't have to do any trimming which is not a fix, second, if you go play with it for awhile based on the type of wheeling you'll be doing then you will get a better idea of the tire, tread and size that would work best for you.
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okay now im confused since you changed the pic.

now the first pic looking like you have a lift but, on stock tires. (maybe its an illusion)

does anyone have a pic of a D1 with stock size tires and a small (2"-3") lift?

when you are talking about 265's, are you refering to 265/75/16s (basically a 32")?
sorry for that i was showing some of the travel you can get with Stock suspension.

Yes a 32"

but what Mike Said I agree with him.
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okay well even though the previous owner just replaced the shocks you guys have persueded me to do the lift first. that way i get get some beefier rubber anyhow.
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The best lifts for the dolla bill

I would say either Old Man Emu HD or Rovertym HD

Big Blues are very good as well and will be cheaper that the 2 mentioned above.
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The best lifts for the dolla bill

I would say either Old Man Emu HD or Rovertym HD
What does this mean??

Are you referring to the springs? Rovertym doesn't make an "HD" lift. They sell suspension kits in "lift" measurement: 2", 3", 5". What one may need to upgrade/modify varies greatly depending on what kit is to be installed. OME may lift a DI approx 2" but, depending on what tire size is mounted, may require some trimming- certainly to the rear quarter pannels (if you want to tuck).

I'm not flamming you. Just clarifying for newbs: installing a "lift" requires a bit of thought process in terms of what tires you want to run, how much flex/drop you want, what your longer-term plans are, and how you plan to use the vehicle--not just today--but over the long haul. Otherwise, suspension modification can be costly & frustrating. A "lift" consists of a well-thought-out suspension re-engineering that should include both springs & shocks, bracketry, brake lines, and possibly suspension arms, depending on the model.

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What does this mean??

Are you referring to the springs? Rovertym doesn't make an "HD" lift. They sell suspension kits in "lift" measurement: 2", 3", 5". What one may need to upgrade/modify varies greatly depending on what kit is to be installed. OME may lift a DI approx 2" but, depending on what tire size is mounted, may require some trimming- certainly to the rear quarter pannels (if you want to tuck).

I'm not flamming you. Just clarifying for newbs: installing a "lift" requires a bit of thought process in terms of what tires you want to run, how much flex/drop you want, what your longer-term plans are, and how you plan to use the vehicle--not just today--but over the long haul. Otherwise, suspension modification can be costly & frustrating. A "lift" consists of a well-thought-out suspension re-engineering that should include both springs & shocks, bracketry, brake lines, and possibly suspension arms, depending on the model.

Your right. I meant the springs

thanks for clearing that up I'm still young!
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what are the big blues you are referring to? never heard of them.

i should probably make another thread on this but, since we are already rolling on this one with suspension....................... my 95 is equipped with air ride what is needed to swap over to the ever so popular coils?
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what are the big blues you are referring to? never heard of them.

i should probably make another thread on this but, since we are already rolling on this one with suspension....................... my 95 is equipped with air ride what is needed to swap over to the ever so popular coils?

Big Blues coils are by DAP-inc

there are a few Rovers that run them and from I've seen they perform very good.

Your 95 Disco has Air springs?

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please forgive me for being such a retard on the suspension stuff. i diddnt actually see that i had air i was just reading and i think i was reading about range rovers air suspension.

i do have coil springs so pretty much everything is just pull and replace with new parts right?

checking out the dap website and the springs it really temps me to do a kit with the big blue springs and the pro-comps shocks. the picture they show with theyre 2" lift with recomended 245/75/16s looks like a great setup.
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Rama there is nothing to feel bad about

yes the 2 inch lift is a "take out the old put in the new" setup.

I have a Rovertym 3 inch lift with procomp shocks. So far the ride has been great.

Also check out Rovertym Engineering and ARB which is the suppiler of the Old Man Emu Suspension.

these kits are about in the 500-600$ range and these two are what most run on their Discoveries ,Defenders and Range Rovers

and yes the 2" lift with 245/75/16's is a great setup on a Discovery. Not only will the truck be more capable but it will ride better and have more clearence for the tires.
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