Interested: XZL Replica | Lassa LT/A - Land Rovers Only

01001010 · 05-23-2007, 06:58 AM

I know that I'm giving away my research here but I can't place an order for these unless I know they are going to sell. So I summon the masses.

During my search for XZLs for my truck, I came across a company in Turkey called LASSA. They produce 3 light truck tires. One of them is a replica of the Michelin XZL. Only difference is that they do not have steel belted sidewalls. Its 3-ply rated sidewall and 3-ply steel belted tread. It is only available in 7.50R16. Pricing information is still not available but I have been told by a few people that own them in the UK that they are inexpensive compared to teh XZLs.

What are everyone's thoughts?

Thor · 05-23-2007, 07:45 AM

I thought the XCL was what everyone drools over.

Those don't strike me as anything I'd have use for.

Rondo · 05-23-2007, 07:46 AM

I think the money involved in importing them would increase their cost to something comparable to an XZL without their biggest benefit: strength.

01001010 · 05-23-2007, 08:19 AM

Right on.

chrisvonc · 05-23-2007, 08:30 AM

What price are you looking at offering them at? If they are under $100, yeah you most likely will sell some to the cheap tire buyer.

The tread looks whimpy compared to the originals.
https://www.expeditionexchange.com/michelin/

i agree with Rondo, I dont think you are going to get the XZL buyers for what I assume will be a huge price after importing and also as mentioned, they dont have the strength that make the XZL sought after.

One other thought are those knock offs DOT approved?

01001010 · 05-23-2007, 08:38 AM

Chris,

Pricing and approval is what the second email I sent them is about. Supposedly LASSA is Liscenced by Michelin to make these but I got that tid bit from an unreliable source. We'll see. I expect a response by this evening.

It's also a bit inconvenient that they only make them in that one size.

Rondo · 05-23-2007, 08:47 AM

Have you looked into buying them from a Michelin commercial tire retailer? The XZLs are still in use and sold in the US to businesses.

Rondo · 05-23-2007, 08:49 AM

Check out consolidated tires. They carry the XZL and every other michelin commercial tire. As a business you should have no problem getting them. (I expect a discount on my first purchase if you can get ahold of em

)

http://www.consolidatedtires.com/locations.htm

D90DC · 05-24-2007, 06:54 PM

Watch out if the DOT logo is not there you could get slamed by Big Brother

archaeology_student · 05-24-2007, 09:26 PM

Well... fyi there is an aggressive looking tire sold in Canada and in the States that might interest some of you. Pit Bull Tires and there are three models they have. I think it is worth a look for curiousity's sake.

This is a pic of the "Rocker" model.

The "Maddog" model:

The "Growler":

I was told XZL's are hard to get new due to the fact they are mostly being shipped to the forces over in the war. I phoned one of the major tire service centers in B.C. (KalTire) and they informed me of the current shortage.

I do love my XZL's though... people tend to drool over then

Rondo · 05-25-2007, 06:54 AM

Pitbull tires are great for what they are designed for. Unfortunately they are generally way to big (wide) and are terrible for on-road. They wouldn't make a good "terra trekker" tire.

archaeology_student · 05-25-2007, 10:52 AM

Good point Rondo

roverpwr · 05-30-2007, 04:11 PM

Hopefully when the war finaly winds down, the XZL's will be more avaible stateside. Hopefully my Michelin cross terrains will last till then. Mike

Rondo · 05-30-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roverpwr

Hopefully when the war finaly winds down...

AHAHAHAAHA

roverandom · 05-30-2007, 08:07 PM

The May 07 issue of Petersons 4wheel & off-road recently tested the Pit Bull Maddogs. and to make a short story even shorter, they are crap. However the Hercules Trail Digger M/T got rave reveiws. Available in 31' to 33" tire heights and look to have a more functional rather than funky tread pattern. Check them out at www.herculestire.com

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05-23-2007, 06:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
01001010 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 4,542 Gallery: 15	Interested: XZL Replica \| Lassa LT/A I know that I'm giving away my research here but I can't place an order for these unless I know they are going to sell. So I summon the masses. During my search for XZLs for my truck, I came across a company in Turkey called LASSA. They produce 3 light truck tires. One of them is a replica of the Michelin XZL. Only difference is that they do not have steel belted sidewalls. Its 3-ply rated sidewall and 3-ply steel belted tread. It is only available in 7.50R16. Pricing information is still not available but I have been told by a few people that own them in the UK that they are inexpensive compared to teh XZLs. What are everyone's thoughts? __________________ JC... 1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =( 1965 Series IIa 109 RHD 2.25L Dsl - Wilks 1965 Series IIa 88' LHD 2.25L Petrol - Fionna

05-23-2007, 07:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Thor Solihull Society, CO and High Desert Rovers, NM Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,270 Gallery: 0	I thought the XCL was what everyone drools over. Those don't strike me as anything I'd have use for. __________________ Todd Carpe Rangius Roverum

05-23-2007, 08:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
01001010 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 4,542 Gallery: 15	Right on. __________________ JC... 1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =( 1965 Series IIa 109 RHD 2.25L Dsl - Wilks 1965 Series IIa 88' LHD 2.25L Petrol - Fionna

05-23-2007, 08:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
chrisvonc Halloween is almost here!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,645 Gallery: 0	What price are you looking at offering them at? If they are under $100, yeah you most likely will sell some to the cheap tire buyer. The tread looks whimpy compared to the originals. https://www.expeditionexchange.com/michelin/ i agree with Rondo, I dont think you are going to get the XZL buyers for what I assume will be a huge price after importing and also as mentioned, they dont have the strength that make the XZL sought after. One other thought are those knock offs DOT approved? __________________ Chris von C. Sick of how slow LRO has become with all the ad's? Rage Against The Banners!! If you use Firefox, install the add-on AdBlock Plus. All ads gone and the site loads like greased lightning again.

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05-23-2007, 07:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rondo California Dreamin' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 285 Gallery: 0	I think the money involved in importing them would increase their cost to something comparable to an XZL without their biggest benefit: strength.

05-23-2007, 08:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
01001010 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 4,542 Gallery: 15	Chris, Pricing and approval is what the second email I sent them is about. Supposedly LASSA is Liscenced by Michelin to make these but I got that tid bit from an unreliable source. We'll see. I expect a response by this evening. It's also a bit inconvenient that they only make them in that one size. __________________ JC... 1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =( 1965 Series IIa 109 RHD 2.25L Dsl - Wilks 1965 Series IIa 88' LHD 2.25L Petrol - Fionna

05-23-2007, 08:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rondo California Dreamin' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 285 Gallery: 0	Have you looked into buying them from a Michelin commercial tire retailer? The XZLs are still in use and sold in the US to businesses.

05-23-2007, 08:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rondo California Dreamin' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 285 Gallery: 0	Check out consolidated tires. They carry the XZL and every other michelin commercial tire. As a business you should have no problem getting them. (I expect a discount on my first purchase if you can get ahold of em) http://www.consolidatedtires.com/locations.htm

05-24-2007, 06:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
D90DC Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 59 Gallery: 0	Watch out if the DOT logo is not there you could get slamed by Big Brother

05-24-2007, 09:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	Well... fyi there is an aggressive looking tire sold in Canada and in the States that might interest some of you. Pit Bull Tires and there are three models they have. I think it is worth a look for curiousity's sake. This is a pic of the "Rocker" model. The "Maddog" model: The "Growler": I was told XZL's are hard to get new due to the fact they are mostly being shipped to the forces over in the war. I phoned one of the major tire service centers in B.C. (KalTire) and they informed me of the current shortage. I do love my XZL's though... people tend to drool over then __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

05-25-2007, 06:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rondo California Dreamin' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 285 Gallery: 0	Pitbull tires are great for what they are designed for. Unfortunately they are generally way to big (wide) and are terrible for on-road. They wouldn't make a good "terra trekker" tire.

05-25-2007, 10:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	Good point Rondo __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

05-30-2007, 04:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
roverpwr Home of "rover" the '96 Disco 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Erie PA, land of lots of snow! Posts: 107 Gallery: 0	Hopefully when the war finaly winds down, the XZL's will be more avaible stateside. Hopefully my Michelin cross terrains will last till then. Mike __________________ 1996 Discovery 1 SE7 White with tan leather Tinted windows Brush guards factory fog lights

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05-30-2007, 08:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
roverandom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada. Posts: 389 Gallery: 0	The May 07 issue of Petersons 4wheel & off-road recently tested the Pit Bull Maddogs. and to make a short story even shorter, they are crap. However the Hercules Trail Digger M/T got rave reveiws. Available in 31' to 33" tire heights and look to have a more functional rather than funky tread pattern. Check them out at www.herculestire.com

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