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Old 03-29-2006, 09:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What do wheel spacers do ? ?
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Improves turning radius & improves stability (wider stance). Some folks don't like spacers because they say it puts a lot of strain on the bearings and axles. Just remember, not all spacers are the same, some are not hubcentric.
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Could someone please explain how they work exactly? Some appear to act as a sort of "washer", shortenning the effective length of the wheel studs, while others appear to have studs on them? Can someone ellaborate and possibly suggest a good set of spacers?
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Could someone please explain how they work exactly? Some appear to act as a sort of "washer", shortenning the effective length of the wheel studs, while others appear to have studs on them? Can someone ellaborate and possibly suggest a good set of spacers?
Most of the spacers I've seen have the studs built into them. We sell the hubcentric ones but we can't keep them in stock. Right now we have the DII spacers in stock and the DI/RR/D90 spacers are due in a few weeks.
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Whats the meaning of Hubcentric ?
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Enter Geo!

Right I used to have a set of 30mm spacers, thats 30mm each side by the way!

I bought them because at the time I was running Disco1 steel rims on Eva and becasue their offset is different to standard defender wheels the tyres rubbed and most of the wheel was inside the arch. So these pushed them out!

Take look!

Never had any problems with them, offroaded them with no worries and they made Eva turn on a dime!
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Whats the meaning of Hubcentric ?
The center of the rim/spacer sits on the hub (center section) and not on the studs. Not only does the spacer sit on the hub it also allows the rim to sit on the hub of the spacer.

The LR stock rims are hubcentric not lugcentric. Our vehicles are very heavy so it's best if the rims sit on the hub not the lugs. Although the lugs/studs on LR are much bigger than let's say a Jeep.

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The centerbore of a wheel is the size of the hole in the back of the wheel that centers it over the mounting hub of the car. Factory wheels have a centerbore that matches exactly with the hub to reduce vibration by keeping the wheel centered. Wheels with the correct centerbore to the car they will be mounted on are known as hubcentric. Hubcentric wheels take the stress off the lug nuts, reducing the job of the lug nuts to holding the wheel to the car. Wheels that are not hubcentric are known as lugcentric, as the job of centering is done by the lug nuts assuming they are properly torqued down. Centerbore on aftermarket wheels must be greater than or equal to that of the car or the wheel will not physically mount to the car. Many aftermarket wheels come with hubcentric rings that lock into the back of the wheel to center it like a factory wheel, usually made of plastic.
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I see those cheap spacer kits for a "universal" fit, at like Autozone, or any other discount auto parts store, without studs built in, in many different sizes and widths. I would imagine, that these are not "hubcentric."
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dont you guys forget about steel wheels now!

By buying steel wheels with larger backspacing you can get the offset wheel for the same price.

John, how much are those 30mm spacers? I know the average price for steel wheels in rover bolt pattern (5x120mm) is about $75/wheel. If spacers cost as much or more....IMO minus well just buy all new wheels.....though I'm special.....I bust alloys.


Not sure if you can tell the difference in these pics....the difference is close to 30mm....perhaps even a bit more. What you can see is the difference of depth between the alloys and steelies of where the bolts are...they are further back in the steel wheel:


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dont you guys forget about steel wheels now!

By buying steel wheels with larger backspacing you can get the offset wheel for the same price.

John, how much are those 30mm spacers? I know the average price for steel wheels in rover bolt pattern (5x120mm) is about $75/wheel. If spacers cost as much or more....IMO minus well just buy all new wheels.....though I'm special.....I bust alloys.


Not sure if you can tell the difference in these pics....the difference is close to 30mm....perhaps even a bit more. What you can see is the difference of depth between the alloys and steelies of where the bolts are...they are further back in the steel wheel:
Steel wheels can be an option but often they are not enough on their own. I run steel 8 spokes, these have a better offset than regular alloys (I think they gve 3.5" of backspace clearance), but with the 33" tyres I run I would have almost no steering lock so I run 1" wheel spacers also.

The only real bugger I have come across is wheel spacers are not sanctioned by the ARC (Association of Rover Clubs, now known as ALRC) so I can not enter any competition trials events with them on.

To solve this issue I am going to get some wheels made up for my purpose that have 5" backspace clearance.
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John C - what are the chances of finding adapters/spaceres for the LR? I have seen adapters that are essentially spacers that go from 5x4.5 to 5x5.5 and so on. How about a 5x6.5 to a 5x5.5 or even 6x5.5 so we can fit a more assorted range of wheels?


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or maybe even having a casting for a new hub made. Any ideas on what that would cost? Any Mechinists out there?


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or am I being rediculous now? LOL :-)
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dont you guys forget about steel wheels now!

By buying steel wheels with larger backspacing you can get the offset wheel for the same price.

John, how much are those 30mm spacers? I know the average price for steel wheels in rover bolt pattern (5x120mm) is about $75/wheel. If spacers cost as much or more....IMO minus well just buy all new wheels.....though I'm special.....I bust alloys.


Not sure if you can tell the difference in these pics....the difference is close to 30mm....perhaps even a bit more. What you can see is the difference of depth between the alloys and steelies of where the bolts are...they are further back in the steel wheel:
are you going to have the rest of your wheels by memorial day?
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