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Old 06-18-2009, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was at the tire store today and I was ready to order a set of 285/60/18 Nitto Terras for my 07 LR3. When the clerk pulled them up he said that they could not order them for me because the load rating couldn't handle my Rover. I told him that I have read on here countless Lr3's running the 285 60 with no issues what so ever. Anyways I went to another place and they will order them I was just wondering if there was anything to this comment or if he was just a moron haha. Thanks in advance guys and this has been a really informational forum to a new Land Rover owner.
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many tires shops won't put tires on a truck if they do not match teh exact size and load rating of the factory tires. the tires will fit fine. that's why i usually just take in the wheels by themself and mount them on my truck afterwords. they can't deny me that way.
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I ran that exact size on my Discovery II. 285/60r18. My discovery weighs Very close to the LR3.

Should be fine. A lot of people in the states know crap about rovers. Especially mechanics ect..
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That's what I figured. Thanks guys! I will order them tomorrow and get them mounted up asap.
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The Toyo Open Country A/T's are a higher quality version of the Nitto's that have the required load rating and imao they look better.
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The Toyo Open Country A/T's are a higher quality version of the Nitto's that have the required load rating and imao they look better.
What makes the toyo's higher quality?
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If you want to go it alone and ignore all the hard work and engineering expertise of the Land Rover engineers, then by all means dissregard the tire specification requirements in the owners hand book.

On the other hand if you want the vehicle to ride/handle and have the same loading capacities as it had from the factory, do as the good book says.

All the information you need is in the owners hand book. If you have lost it, get in touch with a dealer and they will be able to give the correct advise.

Don't place too much trust in Internet forums or 'you pays your money you takes your choice' tire dealers to tell you what will and will not work.

Remember the tire is only part of truck that actually touches the ground (hopefully) so it is important that you choose wisely.

Hope this helps.
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I ran TerraGrappler's on my Range and my bro ran them on his series 2 discovery, great tire for on road and most off road, but I just got M-16's by Interco which are way more aggressive, and I bought them mainly for the woods, although so far they're just fin on the road and in rain. But the TerraGrappler lasted a long time, I'm just excited about my new M-16's
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Don't place too much trust in Internet forums or 'you pays your money you takes your choice' tire dealers to tell you what will and will not work.
I put much more trust on these "internet forums" than any mechanic or land rover dealer.

Plus those guys at the tire shops know crap. They just read what they're little computer screen tells them. Which is OK... but not always 100% true. As in this situation, saying that the nitto tires will Fail on an LR3.
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I put much more trust on these "internet forums" than any mechanic or land rover dealer.

Plus those guys at the tire shops know crap. They just read what they're little computer screen tells them. Which is OK... but not always 100% true. As in this situation, saying that the nitto tires will Fail on an LR3.
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My point is, do you happen to have a automotive engineering degree and have worked on the Land Rover LR3 development project? No, neither have I.

If you fit the recommended tire to your vehicle you are maintaining the design integrity. A design that has been thoroughly tested in all conditions likely to be encountered by the vehicle, over hundreds of thousands of miles by Land Rover engineers. To disregard this important aspect of the vehicle on the advise of 'some guy on the net' hardly seems prudent.

You say the dip shit at the tire store knows crap, OK, perhaps he is just reading what it says on the computer (is that not what you are doing now?), but what is the source of that information....... the manufacturer?
You say "Internet forums" are a more trust worthy than a Mechanic or a Land Rover dealer. Are you high? the mere fact that we disagree is cause enough to confuse the issue to a degree where a clear popular opinion cannot be ascertained. Let alone a qualified opinion.

In what world is a shady tree greasemonkey with no formal training more qualified than a professional Mechanic or a Land Rover dealer?

Of course you can fit any number of different tires to a Land Rover, some for the better, others not. But to tell a guy to disregard the manufactures recommendations with little knowledge of the intended use both present and future is irresponsible. A Internet forum user is not qualified to make such a recommendation as important as tire safety on another's vehicle.

What he chooses to do with his own vehicle is his business, I am merely suggesting he should not accept the opinions of others so readily without considering why the manufacture specifies a exact load rating and what the ramifications of disregarding that information and fitting a unsuitable tire could be.

Perhaps he is single, never runs more than a half tank of gas, never tows anything, never carries anything heavier than a tissue box in the vehicle, drives in his underpants and never offers a ride to anyone (which is just as well if he has no trousers!). Or, perhaps he is married, fond of lead boots. president of the fat ladies transport trust, often tows heavy trailers and dreams of a expedition to Morocco with a roof tent and all the trimmings. We don't know, nor does the manufacturer, but they have tested the vehicle and set limits and constraints on it based on the fact that things such as tires are at stock specification. Ignore that and you may as well just throw the owners manual away because half the information in it will be altered.

I'm off now to take a drive in my underpants!
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My point is, do you happen to have a automotive engineering degree and have worked on the Land Rover LR3 development project? No, neither have I.

If you fit the recommended tire to your vehicle you are maintaining the design integrity. A design that has been thoroughly tested in all conditions likely to be encountered by the vehicle, over hundreds of thousands of miles by Land Rover engineers. To disregard this important aspect of the vehicle on the advise of 'some guy on the net' hardly seems prudent.


If what you say is true than why did I and thousands of other LR3 owners have to replace the OEM Goodyear tires on our trucks after only a few thousand miles? LRN knew about it... the dealships knew about it. I heard about it on this forum after I purchased my LR3 certainly not from Landrover.

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Original equipment tires on the LR3s were NOT thoroughly tested on these trucks over, as you say, hundreds of thousands of miles or they would not have failed at such low mileage.

The design engineers don't always get it right and those of us driving these vehicles in the real world usually end up paying for their mistakes.
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If what you say is true than why did I and thousands of other LR3 owners have to replace the OEM Goodyear tires on our trucks after only a few thousand miles? LRN knew about it... the dealships knew about it. I heard about it on this forum after I purchased my LR3 certainly not from Landrover.

LR3 Tirewear Lawsuit

Original equipment tires on the LR3s were NOT thoroughly tested on these trucks over, as you say, hundreds of thousands of miles or they would not have failed at such low mileage.

The design engineers don't always get it right and those of us driving these vehicles in the real world usually end up paying for their mistakes.
Like the 03 oil pump and DII front drive shaft! Dealer never told me about any of those.. I found it out on the forums.

Fact is.. many of us have run the Nitto grapplers on Both LR3s and DIIs for Thousands and thousands of miles with Zero problems.

Dealers are all about making money. People on forums are all about helping others. (most of us anyways)
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Hey... did you wash your truck???
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i have 18" terra grapplers on my disco II, they look good but in the 18 months that i have had them on my truck i have ruined two of them. i don't think i would buy them again. maybe just bad luck on my part but for my next tire i am going with a 6 ply 16".
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