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Jupiter Rover · 07-17-2007, 08:06 AM

hey, i havnt been on in a few months.. im moving to birmingham for college and im gonna get back into 4x4.

so i want some new tyres.. 29-32 inch around there.. i have the OME 2in lift. and im running nitto grapplers 285/60/ r18 roughly 31.5 in

im looking into the TSL, TSL:LTB, ground hawgs(and all their Radials)
or anything else you guys recommend..

but.. ill mainly be driving on the road. and dont know how long those tyres would last and how long their radials would last.

can anyone steer me towards some heavy duty , decent on road wear tyres?

SCSL · 07-17-2007, 08:25 AM

If road wear is important to you avoid the LTB. Great off-road tire but it's just not made for every day road use. It'll be noisy and wear quickly. It's also bias-ply so will flat-spot in the morning, particularly when it's cold. The LTB is not currently made in radial.

I'm not sure about the size, but check out the TSL radial. You may also want to look at the TrXus radial MT, also made by Interco (makers of Swamper tires). Neither one, however, will ride as well as your Nittos on-road. It's always a trade-off between on-the-road & off-road performance. Also note TrXus take more weight than usual to balance. TrXus are made in the size you're looking for.

If you want to get more aggressive than those Nittos, but still drive mainly on-road, why not just go for the proven BFG MT ? An outstanding tire off-road that does very well on-road and wears well for an MT. While not as aggressive as the TSL radial, the overall quality & ride are going to be much better.

Jupiter Rover · 07-17-2007, 09:26 AM

bfg mt sounds good then. what size wheel should i get.. im really not too informed about alot of this. 15in/16in? steel or alloy? procomp or what...

can you tell me what wheel is best. then ill pick the size tyre around the wheel.

thanks alot.

SCSL · 07-17-2007, 09:51 AM

I'm still running that same set of TrXus,, but that's on my trail rig & I don't drive it every day.

TrXus advantages: they come siped, more aggressive tread pattern than most radials, very thick sidewalls

TrXus disadvantages: difficult to balance, run rough on-road (compared to BFGs), very thick sidewalls (they are tough, but not very flexy)

BFG MT advantages: smooth running on-road, perform fine off-road, flexy sidewalls conform well to rocks

BFG MT disadvantages: you'll want to have them siped if you live where you'll encounter snow/ice in winter

I'm not up-to-date on tire prices,,, but I would imagine the TrXus are slightly less expensive than the BFGs.

Jupiter Rover · 07-17-2007, 09:57 AM

sweet , yeah ill be driving alot more onroad so BFG seems to be the right choice.. im doing that package deal on 4wheelparts.. http://www.4wheelparts.com/wheelTirePackage.aspx?bp=0#

wont be buying anything for a couple more months though.

Jupiter Rover · 07-17-2007, 10:01 AM

thanks for the help

roverandom · 07-17-2007, 01:15 PM

What kind of wheels are you thinking of getting?

Jupiter Rover · 07-17-2007, 10:17 PM

no clue.. i dont even know whats good.

roverandom · 07-18-2007, 12:44 PM

As with tires it all depends on how you are going to use them. If you do alot of rock crawling or need to run very low tire pressure the you will need bead lock wheels ( not sure if there are any DOT approved Beadlock rims for the road). For general off road use I like steel rims, tough and cheap as chips, they have the bonus of bending rather than cracking/breaking as alloy wheels sometimes do. The main advantage of alloy wheels is the reduction in un-sprung weight,( a big plus with heavy off road tires ) this will help with acceleraration, braking, bounce and jounce controll and less wear on the suspension componants. Stock alloy wheels are ok if you don't beat them up too much but the exotic, $$$, stonger than steel, alloy wheels (even beadlocks) are the top of the heap performance wise. They just cost a fortune. As for wheel size, same as above, depends how you intend to use it. A larger rim will give the tire a lower profile and better on road performance, a smaller rim will result in a tire having a higher profile (much more sidewall) and have improved off road performance. Any size from 15" to 17" rims will be a good fit for both on/off road situations. Tire/wheel width and off set ? the choice's are endless !

sideview · 07-18-2007, 01:27 PM

Wondered where you've been JR

You'll still be coming back to visit gator country right?

Jupiter Rover · 07-19-2007, 11:50 AM

JR? please. im old enough to pick you up at a bar LOL.

sideview · 07-19-2007, 07:43 PM

Haha, now that's funny!

07-17-2007, 08:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jupiter Rover got mud? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 739 Gallery: 0	tyre help.. havnt been on in a while. but im back ;) hey, i havnt been on in a few months.. im moving to birmingham for college and im gonna get back into 4x4. so i want some new tyres.. 29-32 inch around there.. i have the OME 2in lift. and im running nitto grapplers 285/60/ r18 roughly 31.5 in im looking into the TSL, TSL:LTB, ground hawgs(and all their Radials) or anything else you guys recommend.. but.. ill mainly be driving on the road. and dont know how long those tyres would last and how long their radials would last. can anyone steer me towards some heavy duty , decent on road wear tyres? __________________ DII -- Pete

07-17-2007, 08:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
SCSL Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,841 Gallery: 0	If road wear is important to you avoid the LTB. Great off-road tire but it's just not made for every day road use. It'll be noisy and wear quickly. It's also bias-ply so will flat-spot in the morning, particularly when it's cold. The LTB is not currently made in radial. I'm not sure about the size, but check out the TSL radial. You may also want to look at the TrXus radial MT, also made by Interco (makers of Swamper tires). Neither one, however, will ride as well as your Nittos on-road. It's always a trade-off between on-the-road & off-road performance. Also note TrXus take more weight than usual to balance. TrXus are made in the size you're looking for. If you want to get more aggressive than those Nittos, but still drive mainly on-road, why not just go for the proven BFG MT ? An outstanding tire off-road that does very well on-road and wears well for an MT. While not as aggressive as the TSL radial, the overall quality & ride are going to be much better. __________________ 2001 DII - "Molly" 1995 DI - "Mary"

07-17-2007, 09:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jupiter Rover got mud? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 739 Gallery: 0	bfg mt sounds good then. what size wheel should i get.. im really not too informed about alot of this. 15in/16in? steel or alloy? procomp or what... can you tell me what wheel is best. then ill pick the size tyre around the wheel. thanks alot. __________________ DII -- Pete

07-17-2007, 09:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
SCSL Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,841 Gallery: 0	I'm still running that same set of TrXus,, but that's on my trail rig & I don't drive it every day. TrXus advantages: they come siped, more aggressive tread pattern than most radials, very thick sidewalls TrXus disadvantages: difficult to balance, run rough on-road (compared to BFGs), very thick sidewalls (they are tough, but not very flexy) BFG MT advantages: smooth running on-road, perform fine off-road, flexy sidewalls conform well to rocks BFG MT disadvantages: you'll want to have them siped if you live where you'll encounter snow/ice in winter I'm not up-to-date on tire prices,,, but I would imagine the TrXus are slightly less expensive than the BFGs. __________________ 2001 DII - "Molly" 1995 DI - "Mary"

07-17-2007, 09:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jupiter Rover got mud? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 739 Gallery: 0	sweet , yeah ill be driving alot more onroad so BFG seems to be the right choice.. im doing that package deal on 4wheelparts.. http://www.4wheelparts.com/wheelTirePackage.aspx?bp=0# wont be buying anything for a couple more months though. __________________ DII -- Pete

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07-17-2007, 10:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jupiter Rover got mud? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 739 Gallery: 0	thanks for the help __________________ DII -- Pete

07-17-2007, 01:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
roverandom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada. Posts: 387 Gallery: 0	What kind of wheels are you thinking of getting? __________________ "Your only supposed to blow the BLOODY DOORS OFF" The Italian job 1969.

07-17-2007, 10:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jupiter Rover got mud? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 739 Gallery: 0	no clue.. i dont even know whats good. __________________ DII -- Pete

07-18-2007, 12:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
roverandom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada. Posts: 387 Gallery: 0	As with tires it all depends on how you are going to use them. If you do alot of rock crawling or need to run very low tire pressure the you will need bead lock wheels ( not sure if there are any DOT approved Beadlock rims for the road). For general off road use I like steel rims, tough and cheap as chips, they have the bonus of bending rather than cracking/breaking as alloy wheels sometimes do. The main advantage of alloy wheels is the reduction in un-sprung weight,( a big plus with heavy off road tires ) this will help with acceleraration, braking, bounce and jounce controll and less wear on the suspension componants. Stock alloy wheels are ok if you don't beat them up too much but the exotic, $$$, stonger than steel, alloy wheels (even beadlocks) are the top of the heap performance wise. They just cost a fortune. As for wheel size, same as above, depends how you intend to use it. A larger rim will give the tire a lower profile and better on road performance, a smaller rim will result in a tire having a higher profile (much more sidewall) and have improved off road performance. Any size from 15" to 17" rims will be a good fit for both on/off road situations. Tire/wheel width and off set ? the choice's are endless ! __________________ "Your only supposed to blow the BLOODY DOORS OFF" The Italian job 1969.

07-18-2007, 01:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
sideview Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,610 Gallery: 0	Wondered where you've been JR You'll still be coming back to visit gator country right? __________________ "From 30,000 feet that swamp looks like a nice green lawn." =^..^= Hoho Lickin' Kitty Blingin Carpet Muchin Floor Moppin Bubbleheaded Vixen

07-19-2007, 11:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jupiter Rover got mud? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 739 Gallery: 0	JR? please. im old enough to pick you up at a bar LOL. __________________ DII -- Pete

07-19-2007, 07:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
sideview Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,610 Gallery: 0	Haha, now that's funny! __________________ "From 30,000 feet that swamp looks like a nice green lawn." =^..^= Hoho Lickin' Kitty Blingin Carpet Muchin Floor Moppin Bubbleheaded Vixen

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