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Old 06-04-2009, 08:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GReetings,

Does any one know where I can get bottom/side PTO pump for my 1970 2a to run the hydro winch?

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Old 06-04-2009, 10:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think I might have what you are looking for. Can you send me a picture or discription of it so that I can be sure?
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Greetings,

I cant describe the PTO as I have never seen one. Currently the pto is located on top of the trans, I am intending to get a rover drive that will have to be installed in the same position as the current pto that drives the hydro-winch. I have read about a pto that fits on the bottom of the trans in the other pto spot. Just dont know were to find one, if you have one I would be interested in buying!

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Old 06-13-2009, 07:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The thing that I have comes out of the rear( where a normal rear facing PTO should come out) and then comes along on the left side facing forward towards the engine. I will take it out,clean it up and send you pictures. Send me (roverhud@yahoo.com) your e-mail address.

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Greetings,

thanks for the forthcoming pictures!

My email is johndtaffiv@bvunet.net

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Bottom PTO's go for about $1000 and are fairly rare. Center/rear PTO's are far more common.

Here's a transfer case with both attached. Circled is the center PTO that can also have a propshaft attached to run to the rear cross member.
Below the red line, direction of the arrow, is a bottom PTO and were available as mechanical output or hydraulic.
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The thing that I have comes out of the rear( where a normal rear facing PTO should come out) and then comes along on the left side facing forward towards the engine.
That sounds like the PTO for a Koenig winch.
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After puling the thing off and looking at it. It is the PTO end of a Koenig winch. I will sell it to you for $250 obo. It turns by hand so it is not a boat ankor and I have everything with it exept for the little pull nob. It should not take to much fab work to fit a hydrolic pump to it. I will send pictures in a day or two. Write me and tell me what you think.
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Greetings,

thank you so much for the picture of the setup. it now makes sense!
I would like to find one of the rare bottom pto. How do I know if I have a koenig winch?, mine is hydro and is powered by the top output shaft, but the winch is marked "Land Rover Mark II" thats all I could find. I cant use the normal pto output because I would like to install a fairy overdrive in that spot.
If anybody knows were I can find one of these bottom ptos I would be interested.
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Smokey,

Are you talking about the bottom pto or a pto that fits in the normal top spot. I have the top one currently working my winch, I want to install a fairy overdrive in that spot but need another output to power the winch. If thats what you have I would be interested let me know havnt seen the pics yet.

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Greetings,

Would it be possible to install a simple electric hydro pump in the back somewhere, would anyone know how many GPM this "land rover mark II winch needs to operate.

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A Koenig winch says Koenig on it. Yours isn't a Koenig.
I haven't seen 12v electric hydraulic pumps that have enough output to power a winch.
You can get engine mounted belt driven hydraulic pumps. Northern Tools sells a few.
The last time I looked, PA Blanchard in the UK had some bottom mount PTO's. They'd be about about $1000US I think.
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Greetings AC,

Thanks for the info I will check it out, I did find some info on koenig winches on net, its definetly not that, dont know what it is!

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If I was in your position I would either run it off of the belt in the engine compartment. Or (if you can find one small enough)run a hydrolic pump off of the crank shaft. I have not messured it but I don't think that there is alot of room up there. After that is all decided you have to decide where the oil tank should go and how to plumb it to where nothing gets hung up by accident. All in all it would save a lot of time and money to seel your hydrolic winch on E-BAY and buy a 9000 lb warn winch. Dad allways told me (a winch should pull twice your vehicle's wieght).
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