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Old 11-04-2009, 01:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 1974 109 LHD 3 door soft top ex-mod and it is in desperate need of a new chassis. I have welded and patched but the chassis is rusted from the inside out and it just isnt safe anymore. I have looked at all the usual places, Rovers North, Rovers Down South and etc and cant find an ex-mod chassis anywhere, new or used. Does anyone know where I might be able to find one?
I found an ex-mod chassis on Ebay but it is RHD and located in England! I am not sure if it worth the price to ship it but if it is can a RHD be converted to a LHD easily?

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Rovers North shows an MOD 109 frame, part number RNE414, but it says $0.00, so I would assume they don't have one in stock, but that doesn't mean they can't get one. It's probably expensive.
It's possible to convert a RHD frame, but unlike the new galvanized frames that have a relay hole on each side, you would have to bore out a (roughly)
3" hole through the crossmember, and weld on the two pieces of angle stock to bolt the relay in
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Try PA Blanchard in York, UK.
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Thanks for the info. Yeah I talked to Les at Rovers North and they dont have any in stock and apparently dont plan to anytime soon.
I am trying to work out shipping the RHD chassis from the UK but I havent shipped anything that large from another country so we will just have to see how that goes. Making the modifications you are talking about sounds doable.
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Hi I have a similar rover as you Xrunnr and my chassis is in a similar state. Is the chassis a regular item that you have found in the uk or is this a one time sale? I would be very interested as to your out come and what the shipping looks like. My uncle sometimes ships freight containers from the uk to here (docks in NJ or NY) with antiques and pottery, I could ask what the cost of one of these would be, if you are interested.
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I had actually found a rolling chassis on EBAY from and individual in the UK but after Antichrist mentioned PA Blanchard in York, UK ( Javascript & Cookie Detection )I looked them up and sent an email over asking about chassis's. They told me that they have a lot of good used ex-mod chassis's in stock and would be happy to ship one over to me. They have to get back to me on shipping price but the chassis is around $500 plus shipping. I guess there will also be some kind of shipping port tax as well? It might be more money that it is worth to have it shipped but I will just have to wait and see what they say.

Do you need a regualr chassis or an ex-mod chassis? If it is a regular chassis that you need I can give you the name and email address of someone that I know who is selling a regular 109 5 door chassis.
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They have to get back to me on shipping price but the chassis is around $500 plus shipping. I guess there will also be some kind of shipping port tax as well?
I have received several orders from PAB valued at well over $500, but much smaller packages. One shipment came directly to me with no additional fees. Another order required me to pay about $15 to get it released from the customs broker (A rear axle case). The only time I've had to pay duty was an order from LRSeries that was shipped FedEx. About 2 weeks after receipt, I got a bill from FedEx for about $20 on $650 worth of stuff.
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Jac04, thanks for the info on shipping.
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I had actually found a rolling chassis on EBAY from and individual in the UK but after Antichrist mentioned PA Blanchard in York, UK ( Javascript & Cookie Detection )I looked them up and sent an email over asking about chassis's. They told me that they have a lot of good used ex-mod chassis's in stock and would be happy to ship one over to me. They have to get back to me on shipping price but the chassis is around $500 plus shipping. I guess there will also be some kind of shipping port tax as well? It might be more money that it is worth to have it shipped but I will just have to wait and see what they say.

Do you need a regualr chassis or an ex-mod chassis? If it is a regular chassis that you need I can give you the name and email address of someone that I know who is selling a regular 109 5 door chassis.


Wow 500$ or is it pounds, for a used military chassis sounds great. I have a right hand drive military. I am going to attempt to plate up and replace the rear cross member (just got a mig welder for 500$) so I hope it works. Definitelly interested to see how much the shipping comes to. Please keep us posted. Nate
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The price is in dollars, so I was really happy about that but the shipping could be 4 or 5 times that so it might not be worth it. PAB is still working out the shipping details, apparently you have to ship the chassis on wooden pallets but the US ports will not allow wood into the country so they are trying to figure out what to do abou that. then they can get me a shipping price.
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The price is in dollars, so I was really happy about that but the shipping could be 4 or 5 times that so it might not be worth it. PAB is still working out the shipping details, apparently you have to ship the chassis on wooden pallets but the US ports will not allow wood into the country so they are trying to figure out what to do abou that. then they can get me a shipping price.
gotta love burocracy, I understand but really a pallet is not a living piece of wood. Maybe they're affraid of termites.
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... apparently you have to ship the chassis on wooden pallets but the US ports will not allow wood into the country so they are trying to figure out what to do abou that.
I ran into the same thing with PAB when they shipped my rear axle case. They stated that they didn't want to use a wood crate due to cost. Luckily, they had an original Rover cardboard box for the axle case (the most rugged cardboard box I have ever seen!)
US ports will allow wood into the country, but the wood needs to be specially processed and stamped with export approvals ( = $$$). I don't think that PAB has the ability or approvals to make export wood packaging, but it can be done. Example: My Turner engine was in a wood crate with all the export stampings on it. At work, when we export items, we actually send them to a crating company that specializes in export packaging.
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PAB got back to me and this is the rough shipping qoute I recieved. £200 for UK port delivery + $600 USD to get it to Atlanta port + £395 for chassis. So if I did the math right the rough total will be around $1,500 USD
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PAB got back to me and this is the rough shipping qoute I recieved. £200 for UK port delivery + $600 USD to get it to Atlanta port + £395 for chassis. So if I did the math right the rough total will be around $1,500 USD
$1,500 seems a bit close to getting a galv chassis brand new. Or am I off base with this. Not too sure on us galv prices but it would seem with the $1,500 youve got to be close for getting something new and galv.If your going to do a rebuild do it right where it count's. LR factory Chassis are not very robust in "my opinion". Just my .02 cents. Military ones were generaly waxoiled very well and are in far better condition than most civillian ones.
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$1,500 seems a bit close to getting a galv chassis brand new. Or am I off base with this.
I think you may be a little off. I don't think that you will find a galvanized 109 chassis for anywhere near $1500, considering the civvy 109 regular chassis is $3400. Anyhow, that's not the real issue - the real issue is the availability of the military chassis. My conversations with Art & Les at Rovers North indicated that the chassis suppliers were not going to be making military chassis due to limited demand. I got lucky with my project, as they actually had a Lightweight S3 12volt galvanized chassis in stock, so I purchased it immediately.

For a nice military chassis, I say the $1500 is worth it, but check into what fees will be applicable (port fee, customs broker, etc.). Then if you want, find a place to galvanize it or have it powder coated.
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