It be Freeeeezzzin over where you are??!?!?! HELP!!! - Land Rovers Only

Geobloke · 01-31-2005, 07:29 AM

Hello peeps across the pond!

I have a friend who is moving to Maine and taking his SIII with him (of course!!). He would like to fit some sort of engine, coolant heating device/devices.

What can you suggest? and where can he get them? What do you lot use?

Cheers

Geobloke

s3landy · 01-31-2005, 07:55 AM

I would install a block heater into the block under the exhaust manifold,if it is fitted for it.If not you could install an in-line heater into the lower rad hose.Sometimes a battery blanket can be helpful on those cold days.Please make sure that you have at the very least 50-50 water/antifreeze mixture in the cooling system.Good luck.

Mike
Long live the oily beast.

Bogatyr · 01-31-2005, 08:22 AM

There are also options like the magnetic sump heater...stick it on the oil pan, plug it in and let it work...not sure how long they should remain on though...block heaters and inline hose heaters are other options. I know RN sells the hose heater, Wise Owl sells the block heater and pretty much any parts shop will sell the magnetic doodad...

Bogatyr

TerryS · 01-31-2005, 09:06 AM

I spent most of last week in Greenville Maine. Next to Old Forge, NY, it's about as cold a spot as one can find, though a town in MN had -56 F (that's not wind chill either, two weeks ago) Wind off the lake makes wind chills sink to the -40 to -50 range) Most mornings were -10 F, or lower. I took the disco, only because the 110 is like a freezer and cabin insulation sucks at best. I prefer an inline water heater because of simplicity of installation. Block heaters inserted into freeze plug openings work as well, but often develope a leak and need tightening of the seal, when there are radical swings in the temp. They're not especially accesible if you need to get at them. Both the block heater and the in-line hose heater provide enough heat to dramatically reduce warmup time, though do nothing to keep the sump oil fluid. The hose heater, being installed lower down in the system seems to cause good thermal circulation. A friend had a sump heater way back when and insisted it 'cooked' his oil. Deciding technology had advanced, invested in a newer magmount unit, and promptly lost it the first time out in roughish terrain.

Geobloke · 01-31-2005, 09:43 AM

What a brill responce! Now do any of you know any websites he can go and have a look at?

Cheers

Geo.

TerryS · 01-31-2005, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryS

They're not especially accesible if you need to get at them. .

After I said this, I thought I might be getting a little forgetful. I have been driving some sort of V8 LR for so long now that I forgot my roots in the marque, that being S2A. Block heaters in those are much easier to get at than the V8, whose freeze plugs are below the exhaust manifolds.

Websites? OOOh yeah, lots of 'em. Some for just window shopping toys, others more usefull for the DIYer, Rovers North (with seperate bbs for series folk, which always struck me as odd, since Series folk have more in common with Def folk, than do Rangie and Disco, at least in my naturally unbiased eye) has a good BBS, Rangie.com for the RRC peeps, and Discoweb.org, if it ever comes back up again.

Esha · 02-01-2005, 11:56 PM

Here in Alaska, our common methods for winterizing vehicles are those mentioned above...block heaters, battery blanket, etc. An easy way to keep your engine oil in the pan warmed are those little orange rubber pads that have an electrical cord on them. Up here, they are just sold as Oil Pan Heaters, so I don't know what they are called elsewhere. We also use them to stick under batteries for cheap warmer and they do very well glued to a plastic bucket for a dog's water dish warmer.

Strazzman · 02-02-2005, 02:54 AM

A very interesting read, the coldest I get here in winter is about 4-5 celcius, that is not even near below freezing. It is interesting to read about the experiences landy owners will put up with to indulge their passion of driving landrovers. Keep the questions coming. PS here is subtropical Australia.

Moeras · 02-02-2005, 11:00 PM

John

I agree. I cant believe that you actully need to have a heater to warm up your oil and battery!!
The coldest we get her might be about -10Celcius. BUT THAT IS THE EXTREME AND ONLY IN THE MOUNTAINS.
Averige coldest for the rest of the place is about 0 celcius.!! (And then we all die!!)
My Landy dont even have a heater! I dont need one. Nothing a wark cup of Coffy cant heat up.

Jonesy · 02-03-2005, 06:10 AM

'ang on a minute - how come he can bring his SIII in here but we cant???? Anyone know the rules????? I know it is beyond difficult to import one in here according to a post I had. Is it because he is the owner in the UK?>?????

TerryS · 02-03-2005, 06:56 AM

He said his friend was moving to Maine, but didn't say 'from the UK'. That notwithstanding, any series III, built before Feb, 1980 (making it over 25 years old) can be imported no problem. Since they came out in 1972, thats 8 years of series III eligible for importation.

Geobloke · 02-03-2005, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryS

He said his friend was moving to Maine, but didn't say 'from the UK'. That notwithstanding, any series III, built before Feb, 1980 (making it over 25 years old) can be imported no problem. Since they came out in 1972, thats 8 years of series III eligible for importation.

The man is correct! as it happens his SIII is a 1971 vintage and is made up of a mixture of SII and SIII parts, kind of the cross over period between the two models. Using up the LR parts bin!

moses · 02-08-2005, 12:08 PM

Hey Guys,

I finally got the link for this forum so I can post directly, cheers Geo.

By the time I get my truck exported to the US I think you will just have standard cold weather, rather than the extream struff, so I'll just make do this year and see how it goes. Cheers for all your suggestions, it'll give me plenty to think about and play with for next winter.

I'm just sorting out my shipping documents at the moment, and can't wait to start driving on the wrong side of the road.

Cheers,

Moses.

Kevin88RRC · 02-08-2005, 01:44 PM

It depends on what part of Maine you are moving to. The coastal area does not get as brutally cold as inland. I have 0/40 Mobil 1 and she starts up fine even at 0º F. Does take awhile for the heat to start.

So, what part of Maine???

moses · 02-09-2005, 03:05 AM

Hi kevin,

I'm not entirely sure of a town yet, but it'll be around the Bangor/Orono area.
I'll staying with friends in Orono for a while untill I get my own place sorted.

I've traveled through Portland on the bus up from Boston, so you're about 2.5 hours south, yes? Maybe you could point me in the direction of a good Mechanic/Garage? Any offroad/greenlaning clubs in the area?

Cheers,

Moses.

01-31-2005, 07:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
Geobloke Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 808 Gallery: 0	It be Freeeeezzzin over where you are??!?!?! HELP!!! Hello peeps across the pond! I have a friend who is moving to Maine and taking his SIII with him (of course!!). He would like to fit some sort of engine, coolant heating device/devices. What can you suggest? and where can he get them? What do you lot use? Cheers Geobloke

01-31-2005, 08:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bogatyr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: upstate NY Posts: 317 Gallery: 0	There are also options like the magnetic sump heater...stick it on the oil pan, plug it in and let it work...not sure how long they should remain on though...block heaters and inline hose heaters are other options. I know RN sells the hose heater, Wise Owl sells the block heater and pretty much any parts shop will sell the magnetic doodad... Bogatyr __________________ Current Rover Fleet: 1996 D1 120k (finally on the road) 1970 IIa 88" (the running one) 1970 IIa 88" (parts truck - need any parts?) 1966 IIa 109" (next project...)

02-02-2005, 02:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
Strazzman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 135 Gallery: 0	freezing??? A very interesting read, the coldest I get here in winter is about 4-5 celcius, that is not even near below freezing. It is interesting to read about the experiences landy owners will put up with to indulge their passion of driving landrovers. Keep the questions coming. PS here is subtropical Australia.

02-08-2005, 12:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
moses Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Old Town, Maine. Posts: 19 Gallery: 0	It's me. Hey Guys, I finally got the link for this forum so I can post directly, cheers Geo. By the time I get my truck exported to the US I think you will just have standard cold weather, rather than the extream struff, so I'll just make do this year and see how it goes. Cheers for all your suggestions, it'll give me plenty to think about and play with for next winter. I'm just sorting out my shipping documents at the moment, and can't wait to start driving on the wrong side of the road. Cheers, Moses.

02-08-2005, 01:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Kevin88RRC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Portland, Maine Posts: 723 Gallery: 0	It depends on what part of Maine you are moving to. The coastal area does not get as brutally cold as inland. I have 0/40 Mobil 1 and she starts up fine even at 0º F. Does take awhile for the heat to start. So, what part of Maine??? __________________ Kevin 88 RRC "Audrey"

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01-31-2005, 07:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
s3landy Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: canada Posts: 41 Gallery: 0	I would install a block heater into the block under the exhaust manifold,if it is fitted for it.If not you could install an in-line heater into the lower rad hose.Sometimes a battery blanket can be helpful on those cold days.Please make sure that you have at the very least 50-50 water/antifreeze mixture in the cooling system.Good luck. Mike Long live the oily beast.

01-31-2005, 09:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
TerryS Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bloomfield, CT If I died today, I lived there all my life. Posts: 2,234 Gallery: 0	I spent most of last week in Greenville Maine. Next to Old Forge, NY, it's about as cold a spot as one can find, though a town in MN had -56 F (that's not wind chill either, two weeks ago) Wind off the lake makes wind chills sink to the -40 to -50 range) Most mornings were -10 F, or lower. I took the disco, only because the 110 is like a freezer and cabin insulation sucks at best. I prefer an inline water heater because of simplicity of installation. Block heaters inserted into freeze plug openings work as well, but often develope a leak and need tightening of the seal, when there are radical swings in the temp. They're not especially accesible if you need to get at them. Both the block heater and the in-line hose heater provide enough heat to dramatically reduce warmup time, though do nothing to keep the sump oil fluid. The hose heater, being installed lower down in the system seems to cause good thermal circulation. A friend had a sump heater way back when and insisted it 'cooked' his oil. Deciding technology had advanced, invested in a newer magmount unit, and promptly lost it the first time out in roughish terrain.

01-31-2005, 09:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Geobloke Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 808 Gallery: 0	What a brill responce! Now do any of you know any websites he can go and have a look at? Cheers Geo.

02-01-2005, 11:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Esha Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 16 Gallery: 0	Here in Alaska, our common methods for winterizing vehicles are those mentioned above...block heaters, battery blanket, etc. An easy way to keep your engine oil in the pan warmed are those little orange rubber pads that have an electrical cord on them. Up here, they are just sold as Oil Pan Heaters, so I don't know what they are called elsewhere. We also use them to stick under batteries for cheap warmer and they do very well glued to a plastic bucket for a dog's water dish warmer.

02-02-2005, 11:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Moeras Profesional Hunter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the banks of the Great Grey-Green Greasy Limpopo River (Rudyard Kipling 1902) Posts: 442 Gallery: 0	John I agree. I cant believe that you actully need to have a heater to warm up your oil and battery!! The coldest we get her might be about -10Celcius. BUT THAT IS THE EXTREME AND ONLY IN THE MOUNTAINS. Averige coldest for the rest of the place is about 0 celcius.!! (And then we all die!!) My Landy dont even have a heater! I dont need one. Nothing a wark cup of Coffy cant heat up.

02-03-2005, 06:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jonesy yo mama Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 433 Gallery: 0	'ang on a minute - how come he can bring his SIII in here but we cant???? Anyone know the rules????? I know it is beyond difficult to import one in here according to a post I had. Is it because he is the owner in the UK?>?????

02-03-2005, 06:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
TerryS Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bloomfield, CT If I died today, I lived there all my life. Posts: 2,234 Gallery: 0	He said his friend was moving to Maine, but didn't say 'from the UK'. That notwithstanding, any series III, built before Feb, 1980 (making it over 25 years old) can be imported no problem. Since they came out in 1972, thats 8 years of series III eligible for importation.

02-09-2005, 03:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
moses Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Old Town, Maine. Posts: 19 Gallery: 0	Hi kevin, I'm not entirely sure of a town yet, but it'll be around the Bangor/Orono area. I'll staying with friends in Orono for a while untill I get my own place sorted. I've traveled through Portland on the bus up from Boston, so you're about 2.5 hours south, yes? Maybe you could point me in the direction of a good Mechanic/Garage? Any offroad/greenlaning clubs in the area? Cheers, Moses.

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