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Old 06-02-2009, 09:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Introducing myself here as I will probably spend most of my time in this corner of your world.....

Picked up an 88 IIA so to speak. Belonged to my Uncle who has since passed. It has been sitting out of the weather since about '92 and a buddy and I are starting down the road of making it move on its own power for starters. She isn't a pretty thing, went through a flood and came out with more dents than cottage cheese. I am going to be spending some time reading through most of this forum over the week and am going to ask several simple questions to start, if they are covered somewhere I may come across them.....

First: Can't find the year, would imagine that it is possible to do so by cross referencing VIN??

Second: We have some older equipment with positive ground. How do I know how this one is wired??

Third: Tried to download pdf versions of manuals from the site recommended here and I am unable to do so (error message about not being there) so anyone with information I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks, Looking forward to the journey.....

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Welcome to the asilum your rubber room is down the hall on the left. If you need any help just screem real lound. Where abouts are you from? Is it gas or diesel. As to your first question the VIN is typicaly located on the fire wall under the dash area. Another good place to look for numbers is on the valve cover though that can be a faulse lead if the engine has ever been replaced. For your second question all I can advise is to hook up a battery and see what starts smoking. Be sure to have a fire extinguisher handy though. To ansure your third question. I have a spare shop manual that I could sell you. If you need any help let me know. I built my 109 station wagon out of spare parts and it is still moving right along.My email address is roverhud@yahoo.com. If you get frustrated with it just step back and go have a beer instead of taking a sledge hammer or shot gun to the thing. Other than that have fun.
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Glad to be here, after perusing pages of these threads I might be in the right place. I am located in MN/SD mostly. It is gas. I have the VIN (24423571B), just would like to know the year it was manufactured for the usual purposes. I'll see what I can do about the wiring. I just ordered some manuals yesterday but thanks for the offer! Yes, stepping away from things has gotten me through life quiet nicely and also out of the pokey.....




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Welcome to the asilum your rubber room is down the hall on the left. If you need any help just screem real lound. Where abouts are you from? Is it gas or diesel. As to your first question the VIN is typicaly located on the fire wall under the dash area. Another good place to look for numbers is on the valve cover though that can be a faulse lead if the engine has ever been replaced. For your second question all I can advise is to hook up a battery and see what starts smoking. Be sure to have a fire extinguisher handy though. To ansure your third question. I have a spare shop manual that I could sell you. If you need any help let me know. I built my 109 station wagon out of spare parts and it is still moving right along.My email address is roverhud@yahoo.com. If you get frustrated with it just step back and go have a beer instead of taking a sledge hammer or shot gun to the thing. Other than that have fun.
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I looked in the GOOD BOOK and I think your rig is ether a late 2A or 3. which puts it somewhare in the mid 60's to early 70's. Can you send me a picture? I forgot to tell you that if you work on it your self to buy stock in band-aids and pain reliver.
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Series 3 came out, in the US, in 1972, August '71 in the UK.
My '64 is 2441xxxxxx, and my '71 is 2444xxxxx, so I'm guessing you truck is in the '66-68 range.
The instant and obvious things to spot in determining a 2A from a 3 are the grill and the windshield hinges. The RED winsdhield hinge shown below is 2A, the BLUE one is S3.
The 2A Grills are galvanized wire and further divided into "early" and "late" Early has it's headlights in the radiator panel, and Late, they were moved out to the wings. The earliest "Late" was the one called the bugeye, where the headlights had chrome bezels and stuck out of the wing panels (almost as an afterthought (Not Almost, it actually was an late, Rube Goldberg change to meet new laws requiring a certain headlight spacing, but the new front wingpanel had yet to be produced, so they simply hand cut a hole and mounted a generic headlamp in the hole)
Series 3 has a molded plastic grill. The simplest way to quickly note whether its + or - Ground, is to look at the battery (This assumes you aren't positive what year it is) Which battery terminal is wired to the chassis, and which one is wired to the solinoid (or bulkhead mounted manual stater switch)
Many early positive ground trucks have been converted so whether it has a manual starter switch or solinoid is not a good indicator.
A positive (yuk yuk) way to know is to take your multimeter, in the Rx1 setting, with the battery disconnected and see which of the two aux sockets in the dash gives you a minimum resistance reading (the closest to 0ohms)
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The vin decodes as follows from Calvin:

244 Model: Land Rover, Series IIA
Body type: Basic or Station wagon
Wheel base: 88in
Engine: petrol
Model years: 1962-1971
Destination: Export, left-hand drive (LHD)
23571 Serial number
B Design: One significant design modification
Suffix used from March 1963 till April 1966

Looks like you can narrow it down to a three year window.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:31 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks to all! Certainly be posting more soon.
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