Roundeyes headlight upgrade? - Land Rovers Only

archaeology_student · 04-08-2007, 01:44 AM

Hey peeps,

I've been looking at the vision plus 7" from Hella for an upgrade, but what do you think of these from roundeyes?

The polycarbonate lens looks like a plus since it not as breakable as the Hella glass.

Adam in NYC USA · 04-09-2007, 10:20 PM

I would like to make the front of my D1 look like a Defender but no real kits here in the US market.

archaeology_student · 04-10-2007, 04:23 AM

This is the Hella Vision Plus 7" conversion:

Hella uses the front of the lamp to diffuse the light while the Roundeyes use the back of the lamp

So the Roundeyes or Hella for a Series:

archaeology_student · 04-20-2007, 06:04 PM

So, what do you peeps think about the two lights for a Series? Which looks better?

pickuprover · 04-20-2007, 07:28 PM

I have never seen the round eyes.. but have seen the Hella's. They supposedly give great light. I like the idea of glass over the polycarbonate... but I am old fashioned (don'e think that the galss would pit and yellow like the polycarbonate.) WHichever you go with, do yourself a favour and install relays to power the lights. The Hella's will probably do in your wiring circuit in next to no time with the extra power they draw....

archaeology_student · 04-20-2007, 07:49 PM

I will definitely have them installed by someone who knows what they are doing... still learning things, but I will learn from the install person

I am still deciding and unsure. I may just give the Roundeyes a shot and see how they look on the rover

I may also just have to buy both sets, and swap them around for a comparison as well with shots during the day and during the evening.

KevinNY · 04-20-2007, 08:37 PM

I have the Hellas and the difference is amazing. I did not install relays yet but my wiring harness was replaced 10 years ago and I am running a 65 Amp Alt. If you use H4 bulbs they draw no more than the old lamps and won't cook anything as long as you don't have a seriously corroded harness.

Best price on Hellas is rallylights.com

TerryS · 04-21-2007, 06:02 AM

Ditto Kevin and Andrew's comments. I would worry about the poly material pitting and getting cloudy over time. I have the Hellas in several Rovers here and like them alot. Kevin is also right, Susquehanna (rallylights.com) has the best Hella prices. I have a vintage set of Lucas lamps in my @a, and that's the only reason I haven't put Vision Plus on that truck too. I don't think I'd worry about the current draw if your harness is sound.

pickuprover · 04-21-2007, 07:04 AM

Kevin, are you sure that they draw no more than the regulars, from what I have read they draw considerably more, and since the old winring on these trucks is sadly undersized to begin with.... All I know, for the price of a couple of relays, and some wire, I would not have to worry about the smoke getting out of my Lucas wiring, as it is a pain to reinsert that smoke...

TerryS · 04-21-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pickuprover

I would not have to worry about the smoke getting out of my Lucas wiring, as it is a pain to reinsert that smoke...

Lucas has a special tool for that. It's their tool number 00001.

p76rangie · 04-21-2007, 09:14 AM

Cibie are very good and can handle the heat of brighter globes.

AAXD · 04-21-2007, 07:22 PM

Hella makes an H4 conversion that I've seen in several series rovers and defenders, not the same as the vision plus but I've heard they are better, only problem is they don't have the DOT molded into the glass so if you got stopped and inspected you might be in a world of hurt, could probably get away with installing a cheap set of sylvania sealed beams for inspection purposes though.

archaeology_student · 04-22-2007, 05:44 PM

p76rangie, I have looked at the Cibie lights... also another great product.

I have decided to get both the Hella Vision plus and the Roundeyes. Always great to have a spare set to change things up once in a while. I'll throw some pics up when I get a chance

KevinNY · 04-22-2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickuprover

Kevin, are you sure that they draw no more than the regulars, from what I have read they draw considerably more, and since the old winring on these trucks is sadly undersized to begin with.... All I know, for the price of a couple of relays, and some wire, I would not have to worry about the smoke getting out of my Lucas wiring, as it is a pain to reinsert that smoke...

I saw bottles of Lucas smoke on ebay once.

pickuprover · 04-22-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNY

I saw bottles of Lucas smoke on ebay once.

I need about 6 bottles of it, that way, I will be fine for a couple of years...

04-08-2007, 01:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	Roundeyes headlight upgrade? Hey peeps, I've been looking at the vision plus 7" from Hella for an upgrade, but what do you think of these from roundeyes? The polycarbonate lens looks like a plus since it not as breakable as the Hella glass. __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

04-09-2007, 10:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Adam in NYC USA The Urban Motorist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 982 Gallery: 0	Nice......... I would like to make the front of my D1 look like a Defender but no real kits here in the US market. Attached Thumbnails __________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Owner of a 1996 Land Rover Discovery 1 in Beluga Black or the Dirt of the Day. Where we are going,we don't need roads. Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of inert facts. ‘The Education of Henry Adams’ (1907) ch. 25

04-10-2007, 04:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	This is the Hella Vision Plus 7" conversion: Hella uses the front of the lamp to diffuse the light while the Roundeyes use the back of the lamp So the Roundeyes or Hella for a Series: __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

04-20-2007, 06:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	So, what do you peeps think about the two lights for a Series? Which looks better? __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

04-20-2007, 07:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
pickuprover Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,364 Gallery: 0	I have never seen the round eyes.. but have seen the Hella's. They supposedly give great light. I like the idea of glass over the polycarbonate... but I am old fashioned (don'e think that the galss would pit and yellow like the polycarbonate.) WHichever you go with, do yourself a favour and install relays to power the lights. The Hella's will probably do in your wiring circuit in next to no time with the extra power they draw.... __________________ Andrew Barr. 1972 Series III 109. "the Tin Turtle" "However, that was his ploy and I caved....totally caved... LOL!" Jellijo

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04-20-2007, 07:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	I will definitely have them installed by someone who knows what they are doing... still learning things, but I will learn from the install person I am still deciding and unsure. I may just give the Roundeyes a shot and see how they look on the rover I may also just have to buy both sets, and swap them around for a comparison as well with shots during the day and during the evening. __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

04-20-2007, 08:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
KevinNY Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Guilderland, NY Posts: 790 Gallery: 0	I have the Hellas and the difference is amazing. I did not install relays yet but my wiring harness was replaced 10 years ago and I am running a 65 Amp Alt. If you use H4 bulbs they draw no more than the old lamps and won't cook anything as long as you don't have a seriously corroded harness. Best price on Hellas is rallylights.com __________________ "The Goat",1973 Series III coil conversion, Daihatsu 2.8 Td, power steering, dual ARBs Etc. '91 RRC, bone stock

04-21-2007, 06:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
TerryS Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bloomfield, CT If I died today, I lived there all my life. Posts: 2,234 Gallery: 0	Ditto Kevin and Andrew's comments. I would worry about the poly material pitting and getting cloudy over time. I have the Hellas in several Rovers here and like them alot. Kevin is also right, Susquehanna (rallylights.com) has the best Hella prices. I have a vintage set of Lucas lamps in my @a, and that's the only reason I haven't put Vision Plus on that truck too. I don't think I'd worry about the current draw if your harness is sound.

04-21-2007, 07:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
pickuprover Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,364 Gallery: 0	Kevin, are you sure that they draw no more than the regulars, from what I have read they draw considerably more, and since the old winring on these trucks is sadly undersized to begin with.... All I know, for the price of a couple of relays, and some wire, I would not have to worry about the smoke getting out of my Lucas wiring, as it is a pain to reinsert that smoke... __________________ Andrew Barr. 1972 Series III 109. "the Tin Turtle" "However, that was his ploy and I caved....totally caved... LOL!" Jellijo

04-21-2007, 09:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,156 Gallery: 0	Cibie are very good and can handle the heat of brighter globes.

04-21-2007, 07:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
AAXD Goofing off in the great white north. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Alaska's Emerald Isle Posts: 628 Gallery: 1	Hella makes an H4 conversion that I've seen in several series rovers and defenders, not the same as the vision plus but I've heard they are better, only problem is they don't have the DOT molded into the glass so if you got stopped and inspected you might be in a world of hurt, could probably get away with installing a cheap set of sylvania sealed beams for inspection purposes though. __________________ "A deep respect for tradition allows vision for liberation from stagnation." Colin's Toys: 1972 Series III 88" 1997 Discovery XD 1993 RRC (Gone to a better place, goodbye old friend) 1983 Stage 1 109" 2002 Trek 4500 2005 Necky Looksha Sport 2007 Rans Rocket 2007 Honda Ruckus

04-22-2007, 05:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
archaeology_student Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Vancouver, B.C., CANADA Posts: 159 Gallery: 7	p76rangie, I have looked at the Cibie lights... also another great product. I have decided to get both the Hella Vision plus and the Roundeyes. Always great to have a spare set to change things up once in a while. I'll throw some pics up when I get a chance __________________ Yup, I run BioDiesel in my Series MSN Blog with LR info and Photos

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