Snagger's 109 rebuild - Page 2 - Land Rovers Only

Moeras · 01-18-2005, 10:21 PM

no mods on enjin mounts & bell-housing then?

Snagger · 01-19-2005, 10:52 AM

If you use the LR 2.5, you need to modify the rhs chassis mount. For the Sherpa (British Leyland van) 2.5 nad (same engine, different timing system), the brackets from the original 2.25 engine are used, with no chassis modification.

As I had a new chassis made to order by Marsland, one of the specs I included was 2.5 engine mounts. These will allow me to fit the 2.25 petrol and diesel (using the 2.5 rhs engine bracket), 2.5 petrol, NAD and TD, and the 200Tdi.

The bell housing requires no modification. The SIII clutch must be used. When the conversion was done for me, they retained the SIII petrol flywheel in order to make the SIII clutch easier to fit. This is not heavy enough for a diesel though, and results in a little extra vibration when idling. It also make timing more difficult as it has no timing marks. I am planning to use the flywheel from the 19J during re-installation, possibly with a 2.5 pressure plate. You also need to move the battery and air cleaner, and fit a throttle cable.

Lawnmower · 01-19-2005, 01:37 PM

the Prima Perkins diesel engine?. Supposed to be a nice engine for landy conversions, as fitted in Montegos as well I believe. Can supposdly do nearly 60mpg!

Twas a variation of the old 'o' series petrol engine, and bolts straight onto the LT77 gearbox, as fitted in landis and other British Leyland cars, the SD1?

...after reading that I think I need to stop reading about car specs and actually do something useful.

Snagger · 01-22-2005, 01:59 PM

Prima is only any good if it's the turbo diesel variant. There are conversion kits around.

The thing I don't like about it is that, as a car engine, the timing belt is not waterproofed, so wading will wreck it. As for 60 mpg, I think someone's pulling your chain! 60 KM per gallon in a carefully diven Maestro perhaps, just.

Got a good haul for my birthday today: mirror heaters from Scorpion Racing, seat heaters from Exmoor Trim, a few bits from Land Rover Gear, and some nice LR drawings from my 4 yr old boy, in addition to that bulkhead bar.

Lawnmower · 01-23-2005, 04:04 PM

Happy Birthday

Snagger · 02-03-2005, 12:19 PM

After much delay, here are some pictures of my new copper-nickel brake lines, rebuilt pedal boxes and pre-reworked instrument panel and loom (the next job to undertake before re-fitting the pedal boxes).

Moeras · 02-03-2005, 10:09 PM

Snigger

I love your new picture!!!!

Bogatyr · 02-04-2005, 06:44 AM

Snagger,
Looks nice!
One question...I noticed that the crossmember under the bellhousing seems to have a notch for the propshaft. Did you put that in there because of the parabolics? Is that a regular deal on a 109 chassis?

Bogatyr

01-19-2005, 10:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
Snagger Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 125 Gallery: 0	If you use the LR 2.5, you need to modify the rhs chassis mount. For the Sherpa (British Leyland van) 2.5 nad (same engine, different timing system), the brackets from the original 2.25 engine are used, with no chassis modification. As I had a new chassis made to order by Marsland, one of the specs I included was 2.5 engine mounts. These will allow me to fit the 2.25 petrol and diesel (using the 2.5 rhs engine bracket), 2.5 petrol, NAD and TD, and the 200Tdi. The bell housing requires no modification. The SIII clutch must be used. When the conversion was done for me, they retained the SIII petrol flywheel in order to make the SIII clutch easier to fit. This is not heavy enough for a diesel though, and results in a little extra vibration when idling. It also make timing more difficult as it has no timing marks. I am planning to use the flywheel from the 19J during re-installation, possibly with a 2.5 pressure plate. You also need to move the battery and air cleaner, and fit a throttle cable. __________________ It's not broken; it's British Last edited by Snagger : 01-19-2005 at 10:58 AM.

01-22-2005, 01:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
Snagger Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 125 Gallery: 0	Prima is only any good if it's the turbo diesel variant. There are conversion kits around. The thing I don't like about it is that, as a car engine, the timing belt is not waterproofed, so wading will wreck it. As for 60 mpg, I think someone's pulling your chain! 60 KM per gallon in a carefully diven Maestro perhaps, just. Got a good haul for my birthday today: mirror heaters from Scorpion Racing, seat heaters from Exmoor Trim, a few bits from Land Rover Gear, and some nice LR drawings from my 4 yr old boy, in addition to that bulkhead bar. __________________ It's not broken; it's British Last edited by Snagger : 01-22-2005 at 02:01 PM.

02-03-2005, 12:19 PM	#21 (permalink)
Snagger Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 125 Gallery: 0	After much delay, here are some pictures of my new copper-nickel brake lines, rebuilt pedal boxes and pre-reworked instrument panel and loom (the next job to undertake before re-fitting the pedal boxes). Attached Thumbnails __________________ It's not broken; it's British

02-04-2005, 06:44 AM	#23 (permalink)
Bogatyr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: upstate NY Posts: 317 Gallery: 0	Snagger, Looks nice! One question...I noticed that the crossmember under the bellhousing seems to have a notch for the propshaft. Did you put that in there because of the parabolics? Is that a regular deal on a 109 chassis? Bogatyr __________________ Current Rover Fleet: 1996 D1 120k (finally on the road) 1970 IIa 88" (the running one) 1970 IIa 88" (parts truck - need any parts?) 1966 IIa 109" (next project...)

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01-18-2005, 10:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
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01-19-2005, 01:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lawnmower Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Evesham, Worcestershire, United Kingdom Posts: 112 Gallery: 0	the Prima Perkins diesel engine?. Supposed to be a nice engine for landy conversions, as fitted in Montegos as well I believe. Can supposdly do nearly 60mpg! Twas a variation of the old 'o' series petrol engine, and bolts straight onto the LT77 gearbox, as fitted in landis and other British Leyland cars, the SD1? ...after reading that I think I need to stop reading about car specs and actually do something useful.

01-23-2005, 04:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
Lawnmower Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Evesham, Worcestershire, United Kingdom Posts: 112 Gallery: 0	Happy Birthday

02-03-2005, 10:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
Moeras Profesional Hunter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the banks of the Great Grey-Green Greasy Limpopo River (Rudyard Kipling 1902) Posts: 442 Gallery: 0	Snigger I love your new picture!!!!

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