Still Diesels in Series

[jimfoo]

Archaeology Student last wrote:"back to the heart of the thread. Does anyone have pics or know of any pics that show the various diesels in the series rovers besides the rover engines (e.g., the 200 tdi or 300 tdi)?

Can't we all just get along, and call it a draw with some ?"

Even though I have my non-Rover Diesel, I wouldn't mind hearing about other Diesels people have put in, and see pics. And PLEASE keep it on topic.

[Greg S]

Jimfoo. What diesel is that?

I'm driving an old VW Rabbit D right now and would love that little thing in a Series 1. The old S1 had 52 Petrol HP and the Rabbit has 52 Diesel HP. It should be about right. I'm wondering about mating the VW axle to the LR input shaft to give incredible gearing options.

[jimfoo]

It is a 1.9 AAZ VW turbodiesel. See http://www.66rover.com/VW%20TD/VW%20TD.html for the whole install. The Rover got totaled however, so is now being rebuilt, engine included with a VNT-15/17 hybrid.

[p76rangie]

seems to sit very low, does the fan line up with the radiator

[TerryS]

The crank pulley seems to be about the same level, and in VW, I'm pretty sure the were fanned by electric units. (transverse mounted engines)

[jimfoo]

Yep, have to use an electric fan. Not like there isn't any room. I was running the stock rad, but It got quite hot going up the mountain passes (+250) which
sure didn't help the engine any. This go around it is getting an extra oil cooler, so it will have 2, an intercooler, and I'll have to play musical radiator until everything works. The guy I bought it from was guessing it had around 90 hp, and it was definitely quite an improvement over the 2.25, especially when it was cold out and the engine was still cool. Hence the intercooler this time. supposidly it isn't hard to get 110-120 hp with the intercooler The torque was a little less right off of idle, but not much. I'm hoping that my new turbo will change that. It weighs in at 150 lbs lighter than the 2.25, so my front end almost seems a bit stiff now. Luckily I have a winch and heavy bumper up front. Over all, I would definitely do it again.

[p76rangie]

I am still not sure what series vehicle you are taking about. The original landrover, a series 1, series 11, series 11a, series 3.

[300bhp/ton]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

I am still not sure what series vehicle you are taking about. The original landrover, a series 1, series 11, series 11a, series 3.

The original was a Series 1, either 80" or 86" in SWB.

Series 2 & 2a are very similar and the engine bay is the same in a S3 although I think the heater is in a different place and has a different gearbox.

The chassis rails are the same distance apart on all so in many ways it really doesn't matter what Series it is.

[p76rangie]

The original was actually called a Landrover, the series 1 came later.
Engine bays for 6 cyclinders were bigger than the 4's. The series 111 stage 1 was different again.

[p76rangie]

"Those seeking better fuel economy and a safer, if smellier, fuel can install a diesel motor. An easy option is to use a diesel from the vehicle's own manufacturer. Alternatively, Iveco, Perkins and Isuzu diesels, often turbo-charged, are popular replacements in European Land-Rovers. The American connection offers Oldsmobile 5.7L V8 and Chevy 6.2L V8 naturally-aspirated diesels for larger 4WDs; they are surprisingly compact (if wide) and have lots of torque but you might want to raise the overall gearing.
The big diesels have even been squeezed into elderly Range Rovers, a vehicle where it is particularly easy to raise the hi-ratio gearing of the LT95 (4 speed) transmission by changing two cogs. Another option is to use the Isuzu 4BD1 3.9L 4-cyl diesel as factory-fitted to many Australian Land-Rovers of the 1980's. They say that it is a bit crude but goes forever"

[Mercedesrover]

I put a 2.4 Mercedes diesel in my truck about 6 years ago. It's worked out really well. The motors are cheap and easy to come by here in the States and last forever. Power is equal to or perhaps a bit better than a strong running 2.25 gas engine and being normally aspirated torgue is still pretty good down low.

Lots of pictures and info here: http://www.seriestrek.com



Jim

[300bhp/ton]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

The original was actually called a Landrover, the series 1 came later.

Care to show me the differences between a 'Land Rover' and a Series 1?

[Mercedesrover]

p76rangie and 300bhp/ton,

Can you both please leave this thread alone if you're not going to contribute anything worthwhile. It doesn't seem either of you have a Series truck anyway.

Take your differences somewhere else.

Thanks.

jim

[300bhp/ton]

Originally Posted by Mercedesrover

p76rangie and 300bhp/ton,

Can you both please leave this thread alone if you're not going to contribute anything worthwhile. It doesn't seem either of you have a Series truck anyway.

Take your differences somewhere else.

Thanks.

jim

Well it was only a question, I can't see a problem with that considering a forum is deisnged for conversation.

And no not a Series at present but yes in the past, a S2 petrol 2.25 and a diesel and a S3 2.25 which my uncle know has with a 3.5 V8 in.

[Muddy Oval]

You'd have to be crazy to consider the Olds diesel V8 mentioned in this thread for anything at all other than a boat anchor. Those engines and their 95% failure rate are the reason diesel engines in the USA have been hard to sell.
Unfortunately, we don't get a lot of the common engines available around the world. The Benz engine sounds interesting, but I don't think it would be worth it unless it dished out more than a 2.25. What about the Benz engines from the 300 Turbo sedans etc?
The Ford Transit would be nice- but you have to stock your own spares.
The 2.25 diesel can be turbocharged- Allard had a kit a long time ago. I think I might graft a turbo onto mine. You can't run huge boost, but maybe enough to go up hills.