VIN Location - Land Rovers Only

LandyIIa · 06-24-2008, 01:51 PM

Hi Folks!
I´m new to this forum as well as a new (and first time) owner of a 1966 Series 2a, left hand drive US(?) model.
My problem, DMV need to verify the Vin # and I looked up the usual places, without luck. So, I´m sure somebody here can help me out and tell me where to find the VIN or at least where it should be......
Thanks for any help!

jimfoo · 06-24-2008, 02:45 PM

Should be on a plate on the bulkhead below the dash. It should also be on the outside of the front right frame horn, on the spring hanger. It could be covered with rust or paint, or if the frame horn was replaced, it won't be there.

LandyIIa · 06-24-2008, 06:58 PM

Thanks, found it on the frame horn, and yes, covered by paint.
Is there any way to decode a VIN# from the mid 60's, to find out more details?

roverhouse · 06-24-2008, 07:05 PM

whats the number and I can get within a production year

LandyIIa · 06-24-2008, 07:41 PM

13800105B, title says it's a 1966, if anyone can give me more details

jimfoo · 06-24-2008, 10:18 PM

That number doesn't make sense as there never appeared to be any starting with 138. A '66 should start with probably 243 or 244. Land Rover FAQ - History, Production, Sales - Chassis Numbering

dsfloyd · 06-25-2008, 02:36 PM

double check on the bulkhead below the dash to make sure the numbers match.

antichrist · 06-26-2008, 03:31 AM

First, Rovers from that period didn't have VIN's. They are serial numbers.
If that 'B' on the title is actually supposed to be an '8', then the rover, assuming the SN on the vehicle matches, is a 1960 Series II.

LandyIIa · 06-26-2008, 08:19 PM

First, thanks for all your help! This is a great Forum!
Tom, indeed, there is a mix up in serial numbers, but as a 'B' on the frame and a '8' on the title. I went with the stamped # first. But if the Rover is a 1960 Series II, why '38' for the second and third digits?

zed · 06-26-2008, 08:49 PM

why indeed.
I also tried to decode your vin.. completely disregarding the year...I couldn't make it work.
MAYBE it could be some sort of 1960 early series II being as there's a gap from 35-41 on the list. A funky 0 could be transcribed as a 6. And you say the door jam matches the frame? and the frame the title eh?

could be a mix of parts.. a 1960 II frame with the body from a 66 and the guy changed the vin on the door (blanks are available) to match the frame instead of the body.. as the frame is much harder to change.

Have a relative that's always involved in synthesizing vehicles to match titles. gets a junk farm truck with no title.. and a junk mechanics lean with a title.. something like that.. swaps parts and such.. then tops it off with a vin plate swap... This kind of discrepancy would happen in his trucks, but you're not supposed to look that hard, and the info for pre VIN cars is not generally available at the DMV ergo their checks..

Where are you that they check.. Here in hawaii I had to have a guy come out to my house due to the title being a hawaii vs honolulu county title. The counties don't trust each-other.

He didn't REALLY check it.. just signed a paper that needed signing and vin rubbing.

Are you worried? cause they won't know the difference.. just that the title matches is all that matters. If you're curious.. I guess you've the right to be.. it doesn't fit the FAQ perfectly.

LandyIIa · 06-26-2008, 09:35 PM

Zed, no, I'm not worried, DMV already issued me a title, even with the mix up in the last digit. Curious, yes, I am. It seems to be a older restauration, I found parts installed of all age stages. My intend is to restore this Rover to it's original specs and have fun with.

antichrist · 06-27-2008, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LandyIIa

First, thanks for all your help! This is a great Forum!
Tom, indeed, there is a mix up in serial numbers, but as a 'B' on the frame and a '8' on the title. I went with the stamped # first. But if the Rover is a 1960 Series II, why '38' for the second and third digits?

Good question. The information I have is that 11-35 is Series I and 41-71 is Series II. Maybe Series II really started with 38.

dsfloyd · 06-27-2008, 01:03 PM

If I remember I will check the numbers on my 1960 when I get home and post the numbers.

dsfloyd · 06-27-2008, 06:38 PM

Ok here is the numbers for my 1960 series II - 144003102. Bought in May/June 1960. so still not 138

zed · 06-28-2008, 04:10 AM

Maybe it wasn't built in england..

When did they start exporting kits??? they might have been numbered differently.. or at least in the gaps..

Just a wild stab..

06-24-2008, 01:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
LandyIIa Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7 Gallery: 0	VIN Location Hi Folks! I´m new to this forum as well as a new (and first time) owner of a 1966 Series 2a, left hand drive US(?) model. My problem, DMV need to verify the Vin # and I looked up the usual places, without luck. So, I´m sure somebody here can help me out and tell me where to find the VIN or at least where it should be...... Thanks for any help!

06-24-2008, 02:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
jimfoo jimfoo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 464 Gallery: 9	Should be on a plate on the bulkhead below the dash. It should also be on the outside of the front right frame horn, on the spring hanger. It could be covered with rust or paint, or if the frame horn was replaced, it won't be there. __________________ Jim Hall “That man has no respect for his Rover and beats the hell out of it every opportunity he gets, taking the most difficult line over each and every obstacle.” Michael 1966 88" 1.9l VW TDI, GT1749V, IC

06-24-2008, 10:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
jimfoo jimfoo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 464 Gallery: 9	That number doesn't make sense as there never appeared to be any starting with 138. A '66 should start with probably 243 or 244. Land Rover FAQ - History, Production, Sales - Chassis Numbering __________________ Jim Hall “That man has no respect for his Rover and beats the hell out of it every opportunity he gets, taking the most difficult line over each and every obstacle.” Michael 1966 88" 1.9l VW TDI, GT1749V, IC

06-25-2008, 02:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
dsfloyd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 107 Gallery: 0	double check on the bulkhead below the dash to make sure the numbers match. __________________ '60 Series II 88 '04 Silverado 2500 4x4 '02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)

06-26-2008, 03:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: near Altanta Posts: 544 Gallery: 0	First, Rovers from that period didn't have VIN's. They are serial numbers. If that 'B' on the title is actually supposed to be an '8', then the rover, assuming the SN on the vehicle matches, is a 1960 Series II. __________________ Tom Rowe Atlanta, GA Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck in places even more inaccessible. 62 88 reg 67 NADA x2 74 Air Portable - The Antichrist (tag 6A666) 95 D1 - R380 95 D90 - R380

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06-24-2008, 06:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
LandyIIa Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7 Gallery: 0	Thanks, found it on the frame horn, and yes, covered by paint. Is there any way to decode a VIN# from the mid 60's, to find out more details?

06-24-2008, 07:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
roverhouse Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 30 Gallery: 0	whats the number and I can get within a production year

06-24-2008, 07:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
LandyIIa Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7 Gallery: 0	13800105B, title says it's a 1966, if anyone can give me more details

06-26-2008, 08:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
LandyIIa Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7 Gallery: 0	First, thanks for all your help! This is a great Forum! Tom, indeed, there is a mix up in serial numbers, but as a 'B' on the frame and a '8' on the title. I went with the stamped # first. But if the Rover is a 1960 Series II, why '38' for the second and third digits?

06-26-2008, 08:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
zed Nut Futzer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 257 Gallery: 7	why indeed. I also tried to decode your vin.. completely disregarding the year...I couldn't make it work. MAYBE it could be some sort of 1960 early series II being as there's a gap from 35-41 on the list. A funky 0 could be transcribed as a 6. And you say the door jam matches the frame? and the frame the title eh? could be a mix of parts.. a 1960 II frame with the body from a 66 and the guy changed the vin on the door (blanks are available) to match the frame instead of the body.. as the frame is much harder to change. Have a relative that's always involved in synthesizing vehicles to match titles. gets a junk farm truck with no title.. and a junk mechanics lean with a title.. something like that.. swaps parts and such.. then tops it off with a vin plate swap... This kind of discrepancy would happen in his trucks, but you're not supposed to look that hard, and the info for pre VIN cars is not generally available at the DMV ergo their checks.. Where are you that they check.. Here in hawaii I had to have a guy come out to my house due to the title being a hawaii vs honolulu county title. The counties don't trust each-other. He didn't REALLY check it.. just signed a paper that needed signing and vin rubbing. Are you worried? cause they won't know the difference.. just that the title matches is all that matters. If you're curious.. I guess you've the right to be.. it doesn't fit the FAQ perfectly. __________________ "Its a beautiful thing the destruction of words" “Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.” - Orwell: nineteen eighty-four, true for Oceania, true for today.

06-26-2008, 09:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
LandyIIa Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7 Gallery: 0	Zed, no, I'm not worried, DMV already issued me a title, even with the mix up in the last digit. Curious, yes, I am. It seems to be a older restauration, I found parts installed of all age stages. My intend is to restore this Rover to it's original specs and have fun with.

06-27-2008, 01:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
dsfloyd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 107 Gallery: 0	If I remember I will check the numbers on my 1960 when I get home and post the numbers. __________________ '60 Series II 88 '04 Silverado 2500 4x4 '02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)

06-27-2008, 06:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
dsfloyd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 107 Gallery: 0	Ok here is the numbers for my 1960 series II - 144003102. Bought in May/June 1960. so still not 138 __________________ '60 Series II 88 '04 Silverado 2500 4x4 '02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)

06-28-2008, 04:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
zed Nut Futzer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 257 Gallery: 7	Maybe it wasn't built in england.. When did they start exporting kits??? they might have been numbered differently.. or at least in the gaps.. Just a wild stab.. __________________ "Its a beautiful thing the destruction of words" “Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.” - Orwell: nineteen eighty-four, true for Oceania, true for today.

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