4WD small gear shifter - Land Rovers Only

ryanc8514 · 02-27-2006, 04:29 PM

i never change the small shifter to a low gear because i dont ever need it...however i have changed it before and it worked fine...i tried to shift it the other day (both while in neutral still and in neutral rolling) and it would not move at all...what could be the problem?

Disco Mike · 02-27-2006, 05:08 PM

Typical for all Rovers per design.
First don't force it or you could bend one of the linkages.
Crawl under the truck with a spray can of lube or penetrating oil and spray the hell out of all the linkage, let it sit a while and then start slowly wiggling your shifter slowly pushing harder till it starts to move. If that doesn't work, you may have to go thru the console to clean and lube from above.
Good luck,
Mike

RageRover · 02-27-2006, 05:11 PM

I've heard of a solenoid from either Funrover, or someone else, that a solenoid on the range shifter will sometimes freeze and not allow the shifter to move when trying to shift from high to low. Mine also doesn't move at all since I had the Rover. I follow the instructions in the center console but it doesn't budge.

OkieRover · 02-27-2006, 06:08 PM

It might be that solonoid that is controlled by the relay that probably failed.
Removing the shaft from the solonoid by passes the relay.

RageRover · 02-27-2006, 06:25 PM

I will take a look at that or figure out an electrical issue if the relay failed.

keptin · 02-27-2006, 08:06 PM

x3 on the soloniod. My friends 94 DI recently had this problem....it turned out that the soloniod was ok, but the wiring to the soloniod was fried...either way, taking it out solved the problem.

Explorer4x4 · 02-27-2006, 08:57 PM

I have a problem with my shifter- it just wiggles around. it goes to 4hi lock, but not neutral or 4low. The lever goes all the way forward, but it stays in 4hi.

RageRover · 02-27-2006, 09:20 PM

Probably the linkage is broken off and needs to be reattached.

Explorer4x4 · 02-27-2006, 09:24 PM

What is the best way to get to it?

1st rover · 02-27-2006, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageRover

Probably the linkage is broken off and needs to be reattached.

2x

1st rover · 02-27-2006, 11:43 PM

you may just want to check these areas .. on the transfer case

sven · 02-28-2006, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Explorer4x4

What is the best way to get to it?

Best way to get at it is by removing the center concole, drilling out all the rivets, and removing the trans shifter. Once all this stuff is out of the way, you'll see the linkage from the top.

FWIW, I think only 93 and up RRC have that lockout solenoid. The solenoid is built-in to the shifter itself. On the disco's its bolted onto the transfer case.

ryanc8514 · 04-12-2006, 12:46 PM

where exactly is the solenoid located on a 94 RRC?

RageRover · 04-12-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanc8514

where exactly is the solenoid located on a 94 RRC?

On top of the transfercase. From what it looks like in the diagram above and from what I hear, it sounds like a total bitch to get to, but I ain't sure, haven't gotten under there to see for myself. LOL

sven · 04-13-2006, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanc8514

where exactly is the solenoid located on a 94 RRC?

Its built-in to the shifter assembly. Look at the diagram above, it's part of #6.

The lockout solenoid on a disco (LT230) is on top of the transfer case.

02-27-2006, 04:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
ryanc8514 ryans ROVER Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 180 Gallery: 0	4WD small gear shifter i never change the small shifter to a low gear because i dont ever need it...however i have changed it before and it worked fine...i tried to shift it the other day (both while in neutral still and in neutral rolling) and it would not move at all...what could be the problem?

02-27-2006, 05:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
RageRover Crazy about Rovers and more... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Westland, MI Posts: 2,889 Gallery: 0	I've heard of a solenoid from either Funrover, or someone else, that a solenoid on the range shifter will sometimes freeze and not allow the shifter to move when trying to shift from high to low. Mine also doesn't move at all since I had the Rover. I follow the instructions in the center console but it doesn't budge. __________________ Pat Albaugh, Midwest Moderator "Diffage" -the point at which the truck's differential makes contact with the ground. http://www.cardomain.com/id/RageRover42Visit my RRC and others here!(updated as of September 15, 2006) 1995 RRC LWB -LT265/75R16 Pathfinder All Terrains -RTE 2" Lift Springs -Pro Comp ES9000 Shocks (from DAP Enterprises) -KMC Front Diff Guard -4 Desert Fox 55 watt Lighting -Radio Shack CB Radio (never know when signal fails on a cell phone) -2 Halogen Super Sport 100 watt forward lights -Custom slim style front bumper w/ integrated bull bar -Lowe's Special "Homemade" Snorkel -T-Case out of an 92' RRC

02-27-2006, 06:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
RageRover Crazy about Rovers and more... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Westland, MI Posts: 2,889 Gallery: 0	I will take a look at that or figure out an electrical issue if the relay failed. __________________ Pat Albaugh, Midwest Moderator "Diffage" -the point at which the truck's differential makes contact with the ground. http://www.cardomain.com/id/RageRover42Visit my RRC and others here!(updated as of September 15, 2006) 1995 RRC LWB -LT265/75R16 Pathfinder All Terrains -RTE 2" Lift Springs -Pro Comp ES9000 Shocks (from DAP Enterprises) -KMC Front Diff Guard -4 Desert Fox 55 watt Lighting -Radio Shack CB Radio (never know when signal fails on a cell phone) -2 Halogen Super Sport 100 watt forward lights -Custom slim style front bumper w/ integrated bull bar -Lowe's Special "Homemade" Snorkel -T-Case out of an 92' RRC

02-27-2006, 08:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
keptin The guy with the Banhammer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,366 Gallery: 0	x3 on the soloniod. My friends 94 DI recently had this problem....it turned out that the soloniod was ok, but the wiring to the soloniod was fried...either way, taking it out solved the problem. __________________ Josh Shapiro DII

02-27-2006, 08:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Explorer4x4 who that is?™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 155 Gallery: 0	I have a problem with my shifter- it just wiggles around. it goes to 4hi lock, but not neutral or 4low. The lever goes all the way forward, but it stays in 4hi. __________________ 1994 Range Rover SWB LS1 powered Series III 109 2000 turbo 5.0 Explorer

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02-27-2006, 05:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,760 Gallery: 0	Typical for all Rovers per design. First don't force it or you could bend one of the linkages. Crawl under the truck with a spray can of lube or penetrating oil and spray the hell out of all the linkage, let it sit a while and then start slowly wiggling your shifter slowly pushing harder till it starts to move. If that doesn't work, you may have to go thru the console to clean and lube from above. Good luck, Mike

02-27-2006, 09:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
RageRover Crazy about Rovers and more... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Westland, MI Posts: 2,889 Gallery: 0	Probably the linkage is broken off and needs to be reattached. __________________ Pat Albaugh, Midwest Moderator "Diffage" -the point at which the truck's differential makes contact with the ground. http://www.cardomain.com/id/RageRover42Visit my RRC and others here!(updated as of September 15, 2006) 1995 RRC LWB -LT265/75R16 Pathfinder All Terrains -RTE 2" Lift Springs -Pro Comp ES9000 Shocks (from DAP Enterprises) -KMC Front Diff Guard -4 Desert Fox 55 watt Lighting -Radio Shack CB Radio (never know when signal fails on a cell phone) -2 Halogen Super Sport 100 watt forward lights -Custom slim style front bumper w/ integrated bull bar -Lowe's Special "Homemade" Snorkel -T-Case out of an 92' RRC

02-27-2006, 09:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Explorer4x4 who that is?™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 155 Gallery: 0	What is the best way to get to it? __________________ 1994 Range Rover SWB LS1 powered Series III 109 2000 turbo 5.0 Explorer

02-27-2006, 11:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
1st rover rovering?? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, Ca. Posts: 689 Gallery: 0	you may just want to check these areas .. on the transfer case Attached Thumbnails __________________ -Nikunj 1993 Range Rover Classic LWB 1995 VW JETTA

04-12-2006, 12:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
ryanc8514 ryans ROVER Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 180 Gallery: 0	where exactly is the solenoid located on a 94 RRC? __________________ ryan mura 1994 range rover county lwb -BIG BLUE 3" coil spring suspension lift -Procomp ES3000 shocks -custom snorkel -glasspack exhaust system -285/75/R16 all terrain tires -old school CB radio from the 80s-cobra -speakers loud enough to set off car alarms -LR3 side air vent

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