93 LWB 10 or 24 spline?

[Paul Grant]

Well, all I have to say about "it's something you run into every day dealing with Rovers from other countries." is you should then know that 24 spline axles were not available for all years of RRC as you stated above. You should also know that MY start dates differ between the US and ROW which leads me to wonder why you've posted any of this misinformation when it served absolutely no purpose with regard to the original posters question.

[TerryS]

Originally Posted by TerryS

The 10th digit in a 17 digit VIN number defines the year of manufacture, and has nothing to do with what market it was intended for.

So then, going back to what you originally said, Where in the VIN of an NORTH AMERICAN spec vehicle is the letters NA, other than only the 1992 model (N) and made in Solihull (A)?

In A NA spec truck, it would say JA in position 10 and 11, if it were a 1988, made in Solihull, right?

I give you that the J in the 10th digit in a European Spec vehicle does not mean 1988, but according to the table on page 9&10 of the RR service manual (1987-1991, somebody who borrowed my 1993 manual has YET TO RETURN IT) a J in the 10th digit means 1992.

The only digit in the VIN which indicates NORTH AMERICAN SPEC is the 5th digit, and should be a V.
I agree it is a little confusing, so I'm not entering a horse in this race, but I do know that they never went from 24 spline back to 10 spline.

Of More interest to me, and Getting back to the question Paul Grant asked you, what did your NAS110 have for axles?

[Sign Guy]

vin 635227 is a 10 spline. When I drained the oil I poaked around with a magnet and pulled out part of a tooth of the ring gear. No wonder it sounded like a metal card in spokes. Oh yeah, p76rangie, it's 10 bolts not 5 and last I checked discussion is what these boards are for. So, for future reference any one with a vin less than mine you have 10 spline. I think it would be helpful to narrow it down further or find out exactly when the change over took place. For the next person who has this problem and finds it hard to take the time to jack the truck up and pull the 10 (count em' 10) bolts to pull the shaft.

Thanks to everyone!

[Paul Grant]

Bill,
If you want to move up to a 24 spline diff and half shafts I can sell you the set for $200 plus shipping. I always have stock in these parts so keep me in mind when you make your repair.

We have to get someone with 24 spline diffs straight from the factory to post their VIN so that we can begin to narrow the gap a bit.
Cheers,
Paul

[p76rangie]

Sign Guy, It would appear that you can't count or you have a very strange rover. You only have to pull one axle to see if it is 24 spline. Are you suggesting that you have to pull both, just in case one is a 10 spline and one is 24. If you are going to have a go at someone, make sure you are correct first.

[rezdiver]

too funny, there are only 5 bolts per side for the axle shafts.
maybe he is counting the wheels nuts in addition to make 10. or maybe he pulled the diff out of the housing and is counting the nuts on that.

[TerryS]

On my Defender (with NATO rims) it's even easier to pull the 5 bolts, I don't even have to jack it up.

[Paul Grant]

Now Terry, on your NAS 110 did you check the options box for 10 or 24 spline diffs? Since they both have always been available according to Steve I just wonder how the consumer made the choice. I wonder what the original owner of Steve's 110 chose?

If I had known I could have saved a couple of dollars when I was buying my 1994 LWB I would have checked the 10 spline option. I guess the original owner of my 1985 was a cheapskate too. Why else would he go with the 10 spline option if 24 spline diffs were available back in late 1984 when the truck was built.

[Sign Guy]

Hey rez, know what the smilies mean? The ones I used were for sarcasm, and yes it does take 10, 5 for the wheel and 5 for the shaft. I was just being correct with the number.

[p76rangie]

Sign Guy, wrong again. Depends on the wheel. Many Landrover wheels allow the axle to be removed without removing the wheels.

[Sign Guy]

Some Rovers may run on cow flatulence but the classic in my driveway takes 10, and I don;t have to count them again, bolts to pull the rear half shaft. :yawn:

Hopefully this thread will help to find the actual point where the change was made, which was/is the point.

[Nomar]

This thread is too funny!

My 93 LWB is 10-spline as well. And that's on BOTH sides of the differential. Front and back as well! Go figure! I thought for awhile that maybe the passenger side was 24-spline but I was wrong, 10-spline there too.

SignGuy, if you 've lost a rear end, I would do as Paul suggested and change it to 24 count.

[TerryS]

While the less mechanically inclined might not know the difference between a nut and a bolt, They aren't going to go into a hardware store, ask for a 8 mm nut and have the guy ask "How long?"
I know of no Land Rover whose wheels are held on by bolts, irrespective which wheel it has, so, at best, you only have to remove 5 bolts, and worst, 5 wheel nuts, and 5 bolts.

[Paul Grant]

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[p76rangie]

Nomar, my Rangie does have 24 spline in the rear and 10 spline in the front.