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Old 12-25-2012, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so I have a '91 Classic that's been great to me. Right now I'm running stock suspension, stock size mud tires, without sway bars, but I'm looking to put on a lift to fit bigger tires (Thinking around a 33"), and add some payload compacity. To through a wrench into the mix, I use it as a daily driver, so I'd like it to be reasonably comfortable. I also use it as my expedition truck, and I'm currently in the process of converting the back half of a disco 1 into an off road enclosed trailer. I'm thinking maybe of a 2 inch medium duty suspension lift, and a 2 inch body lift. I figure instead of going with a HD lift, it will be tolerable as a daily driver, but I'll be able to back it full of gear, and hook up my trailer, without it squatting too much. I'm just wondering if anybody might have some insight into this, or if anybody has some better ideas. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Wish i could help but i am new to the land of off road vehicles and could only help you all day long with lowering your car and race suspension but 33 inch tires sound foreign to me. i was thinking i would lower my range rover, put the sway bars on it and try for a more radial tire to get the best mpg's but i love the vogue look....
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Thanks anyways. No offense, but a range rover isn't really something to lower. If you want to ruin something, why not some rice rocket? Do yourself a favour. Winch bumper, mud tires, roof rack, and lights. People won't stop lookin at your truck, but in a good way.
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you'll wanna go 3" for 285/33" tires. there will be minor trimming but nothing major. you will have rubbing issues at full lock.

How much payload are you thinking?
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I'm expecting anywhere between 200-500LB in the truck depending on if I have passengers or not. I'm not quite sure what my trailer is going to weigh unloaded, but I'm estemating it to be around 1500LB, and probably put another 300-400LBs in that. Again, I'm not quite sure what my tongue weight is going to be, but I'm thinking around 200-250.

With a 3", will I be having too many problems with steering geometry? I'm expecting to have to put on a d2 driveshaft, but I don't really want to have to start getting into different control arms, because that'll get expensive quick.
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at higher speeds it'll wander a little bit but its DDable. if it turns into a big issue you can replace the bushings in the radius arms or have the swivel balls re drilled. Its never bothered me, but I dont usually do much more than 70 on the motorways.


iirc I had a OME lift on my classic and it performed well. Its rougher than my p38 in terms of ride, but it still worked well.
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Do you think that 2" suspension, and a 1" body will work just as well? As I said, I use her as my daily driver, and do take it on the freeway every now and then.
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I usually advise against body lifts. you could do 2" and 31" tires. you could probably get away with 235/85s.

All of my rovers are usually highway driven and sometimes with heavy loads.
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Im going to be running a 1 5/8ths inch lift and a 2 inch body and skinny 33's, Im hoping I dont rub but I may still, I only rub on the front when I turn too hard and flex the suspension
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Thanks for everybody's tips. I'll take them into serious consideration. One more thing, the only reason I'm thinking of going medium duty rather than HD, is because I hear that off road you don't get quite as much flex out of the suspension. Anybody have any thoughts?
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I usually advise against body lifts. you could do 2" and 31" tires. you could probably get away with 235/85s.

All of my rovers are usually highway driven and sometimes with heavy loads.
A spring lift does not allow bigger tyres to be fitted. Only a body lift allows bigger tyres.

The only way a spring lift can allow bigger tyres is to restrict movement of the wheels. Might be good for the mall crawler, but stuffs your traction off-road.

If you only drive it on the highway, you are only doing it for looks, so you can get away with a lot more.
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Seeing that you want your truck to live two lives, lifted offroad & reasonable street, you might consider “airlift” air bags in the rear coils. I run them on my converted 95LWB but also installed them on my previous 1990 classic. As they are not attached to the suspension, just contained by the coil, they do not limit travel when offroad (let the air out). When I have a load of tools in the back, traveling the highway, I can keep it level and reduce the roll/sway you get at speed. Generally I just stiffened up the spring.
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Are those airbags just standard lwb air bags, or are they just pretty generic?
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Thanks a bunch. I think I'll do something along those lines!
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